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bcp19:

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--- Quote from: Prophet on May 05, 2012, 08:45:00 PM ---So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.

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--- Quote from: Alenaveda on May 05, 2012, 08:23:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: boston_jen on May 05, 2012, 08:01:04 PM ---Amazing pictures!  Thank you, Bill.  Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:

Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending.  That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did.  :duno:

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We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place.  But maybe she was just watching the landscape.

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If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.

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They should not have the sand island park clue until they get to the bottom, so doubtful she is looking for the next area.

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We're talking about TexasLady's closeups of pictures 3 (Davechel), 7 (Brenchel) and 47 (Art & JJ).

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So, you are thinking something like when they go up in a structure and have to look around to find a marker to the next location.  I can only think of one thing to refute that, and that is the 4 square press photo showing D/R reading the clue while Dave is taking off the gloves from the rappel.  If the teams knew where they were headed from looking around, why stop to read a clue after the decent?  Also, using pic 63/64, the only way these pictures could have been taken is if the photographer was facing south and west from the northern tower, this would mean the teams would be ascending the east side of the southern building, and would be unable to see Sand Island until they were on the top.  Chances are she was looking at Diamond Head, which would be an awesome view from there.

theschnauzers:
Let me add my thanks to Bill Spencer for what I think is the best series of photographs an outsider has ever managed to take of a task on TAR, especially a finale.

The time stamps are an outstanding resource for this; while we've had similar time elements from some episodes involving ascent or descent equipment in the past; it's never been this clear cut (even though we know less about Art-JJ than the other two teams.

A schnauzer bark for a job well done by both Bill and TexasLady!

bear:

--- Quote from: theschnauzers on May 06, 2012, 12:13:00 AM ---Let me add my thanks to Bill Spencer for what I think is the best series of photographs an outsider has ever managed to take of a task on TAR, especially a finale.

The time stamps are an outstanding resource for this; while we've had similar time elements from some episodes involving ascent or descent equipment in the past; it's never been this clear cut (even though we know less about Art-JJ than the other two teams.

A schnauzer bark for a job well done by both Bill and TexasLady!

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you talk about time stamps on the photos but I don't see any..........could you please explain?

Alenaveda:

--- Quote from: bcp19 on May 06, 2012, 12:11:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Alenaveda on May 05, 2012, 11:30:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: bcp19 on May 05, 2012, 11:10:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Alenaveda on May 05, 2012, 09:44:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Prophet on May 05, 2012, 08:45:00 PM ---So they get a route info card and a sheet with 10 lines of directions. That is a lot of instructions for a simple climb up and over task. Maybe there is more to it. boston_jen's theory is interesting.

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--- Quote from: Alenaveda on May 05, 2012, 08:23:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: boston_jen on May 05, 2012, 08:01:04 PM ---Amazing pictures!  Thank you, Bill.  Texas Lady, thanks for organizing them so well. :hrt:

Just speculation: I have been wondering if there was anything about Sand Island Beach Park that was supposed to be discovered by the racers before descending.  That could explain a difference in their time spent up top, if R&B took longer to figure it out than R&D did.  :duno:

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We don't know; but in the picture number 20 Rachel B. seems to be looking at some place.  But maybe she was just watching the landscape.

--- End quote ---

If it possible to see Sand Island Beach Park from the face of the tower they were doing the climbing - again, watch Rachel B. in picture 20 -, boston_jen could have hit the bull's eye.

--- End quote ---
They should not have the sand island park clue until they get to the bottom, so doubtful she is looking for the next area.

--- End quote ---

We're talking about TexasLady's closeups of pictures 3 (Davechel), 7 (Brenchel) and 47 (Art & JJ).

--- End quote ---
So, you are thinking something like when they go up in a structure and have to look around to find a marker to the next location.  I can only think of one thing to refute that, and that is the 4 square press photo showing D/R reading the clue while Dave is taking off the gloves from the rappel.  If the teams knew where they were headed from looking around, why stop to read a clue after the decent?  Also, using pic 63/64, the only way these pictures could have been taken is if the photographer was facing south and west from the northern tower, this would mean the teams would be ascending the east side of the southern building, and would be unable to see Sand Island until they were on the top.  Chances are she was looking at Diamond Head, which would be an awesome view from there.

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That's why I used the "if" and the "could".
So it's probable that, as I said in my reply after boston_jen post "she was just watching the landscape"

theschnauzers:

--- Quote from: bear on May 06, 2012, 12:31:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: theschnauzers on May 06, 2012, 12:13:00 AM ---Let me add my thanks to Bill Spencer for what I think is the best series of photographs an outsider has ever managed to take of a task on TAR, especially a finale.

The time stamps are an outstanding resource for this; while we've had similar time elements from some episodes involving ascent or descent equipment in the past; it's never been this clear cut (even though we know less about Art-JJ than the other two teams.

A schnauzer bark for a job well done by both Bill and TexasLady!

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you talk about time stamps on the photos but I don't see any..........could you please explain?

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From the first set of posts from Georgiapeach on the first page of this thread:

--- Quote from: georgiapeach on May 05, 2012, 01:33:53 AM ---TEXASLADY'S FABULOUS TIMELINE/EXIF DATA SUMMARY:
 
* = a Bill Spencer favorite

Photo #   Racer/Racers   EXIF Time   Description
         
4317   Helicopter   10:08:57   
*4323   Rachel/Dave   10:13:14   Rachel and Dave enter
*4424   Rachel/Dave   10:13:31   Briefing, Rachel with Clue
4328   Rachel B   10:14:21   Rachel on scale
4341   Rachel B   10:21:31   Rachel ready
4344   Dave   10:23:33   Dave being rigged up
4346   Rachel/Brendon   10:26:06   Rachel and Brendon enter the courtyard
4349   Rachel/Dave   10:26:49   Rachel /Dave still on ground
4356   Rachel/Brendon   10:33:19   Rachel/Brendon, getting rigged
4358   Rachel/Dave   10:33:52   Starting up
4368   Dave   10:35:46   Dave  moving on up
4369   Rachel B   10:36:03   Rachel below Dave
4374   Dave   10:37:24   Dave-near top of last set of shutters
4375   Rachel B   10:37:29   Rachel below Dave
4386   Dave/Rachel   10:39:03   Both, nearing the top
4392   Dave/Rachel   10:39:43   Rachel caught up with Dave (he waited)
4395   Dave   10:40:53   Dave nearing the top
4397   Dave/Rachel   10:41:39   Dave almost at the top
4400   Dave   10:42:23   Dave inches from the top
4402   Rachel B   10:42:42   Rachel even with the last set of shutters
4405   Rachel/Brendon   10:44:32   Starting ascent, past the 1st part of bldg.
4412   Brendon   10:45:36   1/3 of the way up?
4413   3rd Helicopter   10:45:46   
4414   Brendon   10:45:53   Looking up
4416   Rachel B   10:46:05   Nearing the top
4417   Rachel B   10:46:21   Almost there
4418   Rachel B   10:46:33   Few more feet to go
4421   Rachel B   10:47:19   On top
4422   Brendon   10:47:30   1/2 way?
4424   Rachel R   10:47:38   Just below Brendon
4427   Brendon/Rachel   10:48:08   Comparison shot
4430   Brendon/Rachel   10:48:34   Rachel passes Brendon
4434   Rachel/Brendon   10:50:34   Rachel nearing the top level
4441   Rachel/Brendon   10:54:55   Close-up of both, nearing the top level
4448   Rachel R   10:57:18   Climbing to the top, workers and rigging
4449   Rachel R   10:57:35   Standing at the top
4451   4th Helicopter   10:58:12   
4452   Rachel /Rachel   10:58:47   Rachel B being filmed on right
4455   Brendon   10:59:58   Brendon nearing top
4456   Brendon   11:00:18   Better shot of him climbing to platform
4457   Brendon/Rachel   11:00:44   Brendon & Crew, Rachel on the deck
4458   Camera Crew   11:03:33   Off to the left of the scaffolding. R/D?
4459   Art/JJ   11:04:30   Entering courtyard
4460   Art/JJ   11:04:41   Briefing?
4461   Art/JJ   11:05/27   Weighing in
4462   Art/JJ   11:27:29   Ascending the building
*4467   Art/JJ   11:29:01   Close-up
4472   Art/JJ   11:30:44   Long shot of building and progress
*4473   Art/JJ   11:31:51   Long shot -
4476   Dave/Rachel   11:33:03   Leaving?
4477   Brendon/Rachel   11:34:55   Preparing to descend
*4482   Brendon/Rachel   11:37:40   Preparing to descend
4484   Brendon   11:38:30   Preparing to jump
4485   Brendon   11:38:40   Jumping off
4486   Brendon   11:38:45   Descending face forward
4490   Brendon/Rachel   11:39:00   Descending, Rachel at top
4493   Brendon   11:39:41   End of the overhang,
4498   Brendon   11:40:25   Still descending
4499   Rachel R   11:40:32   Descending
*4503   Rachel R   11:40:56   In distress, crying out?
4518   Rachel R   11:41:51   Nearing the bottom
4521   Rachel R   11:42:20   3 floors to go
L1050664.JPG   Building   09:38:35   Long shot, (Leica camera)
L1050656   Rainbow   09:40:40   Landscape view
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