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TAR 20 Ep 12 "It's a Great Place to Become Millionaires" Hawaii
Alenaveda:
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--- Quote from: Prophet on May 04, 2012, 04:44:08 PM ---Thanks and :bigwelcome to RFF!
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Thanks! I have been around for awhile but never posted. Don't know why probably because i forgot my password but just remembered it.
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:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
ITIATT:
--- Quote from: Alenaveda on May 04, 2012, 07:17:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: ITIATT on May 04, 2012, 04:50:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Prophet on May 04, 2012, 04:44:08 PM ---Thanks and :bigwelcome to RFF!
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Thanks! I have been around for awhile but never posted. Don't know why probably because i forgot my password but just remembered it.
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:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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:'( :'( :'(
jacobsk68:
--- Quote from: ITIATT on May 04, 2012, 04:43:19 PM ---Don't know if anyone has seen this. Probably already posted but I don't see it in this thread. Phil's interview about the final leg with tv guide.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Finale-Phil-Keoghan-1046967.aspx
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thanks for posting the link. Great race so far and hoping for a great finish in Hawaii.
Alenaveda:
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--- Quote from: Prophet on May 04, 2012, 03:24:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: bcp19 on May 04, 2012, 02:35:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Prophet on May 04, 2012, 01:18:53 PM ---So here is what we KNOW about the Hawaii leg.
1. Teams arrive on the same flight
2. They proceed directly to One Waterfront Towers and perform the task (At this point Brenchel is about 15 minutes behind Davechel)
3. Teams then go to Sand Island and receive a clue that instructs them to do.... :duno:
4. Rachel gets mad and they start walking quite a ways up the beach while arguing
5. There is a task (probably a RB) involving papa holua
6. There is a task involving rescuing a surfer with a jetski
7. There is a task or transport involving paddleboards
8. There is a task or transport involving helicopters
What we DON'T KNOW:
1. Whether or not there is a second roadblock and whether or not that task is one of the tasks we know about or an unknown task
2. What the task is that Phil tells a team they haven't done
3. The full story of points 3-8 above
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Is 1 absolutely known? I can see the 15 minute delay due to, say, customs/taxis between R/D and R/B arriving at the towers, but I thought I read in the live discussions a couple months back(don't see the all pictures I remember now) that the third team (A/J?) was over an hour after the first 2 at the tower(Memory may be faulty, but I thought at the time concensus was R/D were the 3rd team). Maybe 6/7 are Detour options(admittedly unlikely since they shy away from final leg detours)? The person in the water looked like a random person, not a teammate, maybe each person has to perform the detour, like the taxi driving course earlier in the race?
Possible turnaround reasons: The papa holua run. You see Art falling off and then pounding the ground, maybe they were supposed to make a full run top to bottom, and one team simply got back on after falling and continued?
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I don't remember any evidence of Art and JJ's time. The pictures of them doing the tower task do not have any time info.
I also still do not think that the roadblock taskmaster will hand the team a clue if they did not perform the task correctly. This means that the team has completely missed the RB. It probably also means that the location of that RB is near the finish line.
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I don't remember a time in what I read, I remember mention of 2 teams virtually there at the same time, though there was mention that the 2nd team was on the roof for an hour, which appears to have later been refuted, and a mention of 1 team having been there much later(which I cannot now find). Pictures I remember at the time... 1) Brenchel of course, easy to identify, 2) Art and JJ, only M/M team left, and speculation whether D/R or V/R were there, with general concensus being D/R cause of a red? shirt. Since this appears to be the 1st task, and due to the timelines involved, IF the 3rd team was that far behind, you'd think they were on a separate flight.
I admit you are correct, they should not receive a clue without having completed it, so that points more to a missed RB. Scenario: Teams receive a clue telling them "Travel by xxxx(taxi/car/bus/boat) to yyyy and search for your next clue". Team A arrives and notices a marked path and finds the clue box which directs them to do the RB. Team A then completes the roadblock and is given a clue telling them something like "Find the windmill to receive your next clue"(similar to detours when a U-Turn is just before the clue box). Team B arrives and starts searching(missing seeing the marked path), but happen to see team A making a mad dash away from the windmill, so they run over there and find a cluebox, never realizing they got the wrong one.
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Ok, I know all of you are going to say I'm wrong and with evidence, but I have to say it:
Are we sure about Art & JJ position at O.T.W.? The lack of time reference at the moment they were perfoming the task makes me doubt too. In my post about the flights from Osaka to Honolulu, I'm remember to talk about a one hour difference in the flights Peach posted. The first flight arrive at 8.31am. and the last at 9.32am., one hour difference. Maybe bc19 could be right about this, only that Brenchel and Davechel are the teams one hour behind. The consensus on the Osaka's leg thread is that Art & JJ won the leg; but we don't know how long was their advantage over the rest of the teams. And maybe is that advantage what allowed them to catch the first flight meanwhile the other two teams had to travel in the last one.
(Again, just a theory :duno:)
DrRox:
Alenaveda,
If a person were to completely throw out the photographic time evidence, it is still possible to ascertain the order that teams completed the climbing task at the condo towers. Careful examination of the photos show the location of the counterweight/counterbalance bags that assisted the racers as they climbed. Before any teams arrived, there are 6 bags tied off at the top of the tower, one to each climbing line. When Rachel/Dave were climbing, only their set of bags were going down. When Brendon/Rachel were climbing.........the R/D bags were at the lowest point and B/R bags were descending and the Art/JJ bags were still at the top. When Art/JJ were climbing, 4 bags were tied off at the lowest point and only one set of bags were descending. I hope this makes sense.
One photographer took pictures of Brendon/Rachel on the descent. He did not take pictures of Rachel/Dave or Art/JJ.....but there were two sets of descending rigs at opposite ends of the building.......as seen in the photographs and he could not physically take picstures of R/D and probably of Art/JJ is they used the same rig as R/D.
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