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TAR 20: Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz *Federal Agents*
maxen:
I don't understand... you lost the respect for them just with this last episode??... because they told they were not federal agents since the beginning.
David:
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--- Quote from: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 01:56:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 01:16:06 PM ---Just watched this episode online, and I have to say that I have totally lost respect for these two. Honesty is an important virtue, and they flat out lied, on camera, to other racers about what they do. I'm sure some will argue that this is just a tiny little white lie, and some will argue that they are justified because they racing for a million dollars.
But such arguments are invalid. A person either holds a value, or they do not. A person that manipulates their values according to the situation at hand, can never be trusted. There will always be the next "important", "urgent", or "exceptional" situation that will give them an excuse to set values aside and do whatever they want.
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It's a game. I doubt it's the first time this has happened, and it's certainly happened on Big Brother before.
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It's just a game. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a first date. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my resume. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a loan application. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my tax return. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my integrity. It's okay to lie about it. Everyone does it.
Bull****.
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Definitely, I understand them.
Had they said they are Federal Agents they'd have earned a target in their backs. Do they deserve it? I don't think so. IMHO, if you're an underdog, no one is gonna U-Turn you. But, "Hey! Let's U-Turn the Federal Agents!" sounds like a good reason to U-Turn someone.
"Why do we U-Turn them? Have they been a threat??" "Nope, but they ARE Federal Agents indeed." Obviously, people think they can be strong because of that.
Bluesky:
--- Quote from: maxen on April 10, 2012, 03:02:10 PM ---I don't understand... you lost the respect for them just with this last episode??... because they told they were not federal agents since the beginning.
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No, I and my fellow viewers here have not not liked the "teachers" business since the beginning. But this is the first time they've been shown looking someone square in the eye and continuing to tell the lie. So I decided to comment.
starrynight:
--- Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 02:57:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 01:56:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 01:16:06 PM ---Just watched this episode online, and I have to say that I have totally lost respect for these two. Honesty is an important virtue, and they flat out lied, on camera, to other racers about what they do. I'm sure some will argue that this is just a tiny little white lie, and some will argue that they are justified because they racing for a million dollars.
But such arguments are invalid. A person either holds a value, or they do not. A person that manipulates their values according to the situation at hand, can never be trusted. There will always be the next "important", "urgent", or "exceptional" situation that will give them an excuse to set values aside and do whatever they want.
--- End quote ---
It's a game. I doubt it's the first time this has happened, and it's certainly happened on Big Brother before.
--- End quote ---
It's just a game. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a first date. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my resume. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just a loan application. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my tax return. It's okay to lie. Everyone does it.
It's just my integrity. It's okay to lie about it. Everyone does it.
Bull****.
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Those comparisons are irrelevant, it's a gameshow. And anyway what does it matter what someone says they do, why should someone be judged on what their work is? Those who are nicer people on this series don't judge people on that, others of course do (such as Vanessa who said Rachel was from a low class demographic and Art and JJ).
Best Loser:
--- Quote from: Bluesky on April 10, 2012, 04:02:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: maxen on April 10, 2012, 03:02:10 PM ---I don't understand... you lost the respect for them just with this last episode??... because they told they were not federal agents since the beginning.
--- End quote ---
No, I and my fellow viewers here have not not liked the "teachers" business since the beginning. But this is the first time they've been shown looking someone square in the eye and continuing to tell the lie. So I decided to comment.
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They lied to Art & J.J. because the guys acted a bit rude when they confronted the girls. And in one of the extra scenes for this week, didn't Nary & Jamie reveal to some of teams that they were federal agents? I haven't watched them yet.
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