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TAR 20 Transport
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--- Quote from: Zack. on December 08, 2011, 01:15:00 AM ---Couldn't they just as easily fly to Rome then take a train/bus to Turin? December 4th sees teams in Rome and Phil in Turin shooting stand-ups; while it's possible (and would be nice) to get a Rome leg again, I think TPTB forced the teams to fly to Rome and travel by ground to Turin so Phil/production could get a jump on things by flying to Milan.
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Yes it is possible, but the 325 miles is an issue (vs. 80 for Milan to Torino). The quickest train schedules from Roma Termini to Torino Puerto Nova required 4 hours 21 minutes while those from Milan are 56 minutes.
There is no issue on Phil getting to Torino ahead of the teams from either Milan or Rome. With a 12 hour pit stop he would be ahead by close to 12 hours because trains run at all hours.
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Just in case my thinking expressed in another thread about Rome being an own-leg airport stop and not just a connection point to Torino is off, I looked at evening connecting flights from Rome to Torino. There is about one every hour up until 950pm. The total flying time is 1 hour 20 minutes.
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In another thread there has been speculation based on the hypothesis that the only flights to HNL are from SYD, ICN or NRT and that Sydney would be preferred. Not according to my analysis. Here are the 12/19 flights into HNL from those airports (note that you gain back the day by crossing the international date line so you land in the morning of the date when you left in the afternoon or early evening):
SYD 2
ICN 3
NRT 8
So this data argues for Narita.
Another perspective is to see if connections can be made from Bangkok for same-day arrival in time to make available above connections. The answer to that one is:
SYD 0 (it doesn't compute)
ICN 2
NRT 5
So it looks to me like probably Narita and maybe Seoul. Remember that David and Jeff going south from Cairns to Sydney in AR4 while Jon/Kelly and Chip/Reichen went to Narita were left "holding the bag." And Cairns is at 17 degrees south latitude while Bangkok is 13 north latitude. Sydney is 34 degrees south and Honolulu 21 degrees north. Seoul is 36 degrees and Narita 37 degrees north.
Chateau d If:
There are more flights to consider. When I said Tokyo I meant all flights from Japan.
That being said I think these flights deserve the highest consideration: Monday December 19th from Osaka
DL 278 KIX HNL taking off at 8:50 pm arriving 9:30 am
HA 450 KIX HNL taking off at 9:16 pm arriving 9:35 am
JL 78 KIX HNL taking off at 9:25 pm arriving 9:50 am
These all fit the time line of spotting racers at One Waterfront Towers at 10:40 am local time.
georgiapeach:
Getting more info that racers may have been spotted earlier, I think we need to be able to place them there by about 9.
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