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Neobie:
Don't think we can use the TAR 13-19 production schedule anymore! Transport options are educated guesses unless otherwise noted:
SAT 26 NOVEMBER
AA 276 from Los Angeles to Miami, 2323-0648 (confirmed, scheduled 2255-0640)
SUN 27 NOVEMBER
AR 1303 from Miami to Buenos Aires EZE, 0900-2024 (0900-1950)
AA 961 from Miami to Buenos Aires EZE, 1109-2156 (1055-2150)
MON 28 NOVEMBER
AR 2450 from Buenos Aires AEP to Salta, 0745-0945 (0625-0840)
4M 4110 from Buenos Aires AEP to Salta, 0955-1220
AR 2454 from Buenos Aires AEP to Salta, 1250-1455 (1120-1335)
PIT STOP #1: SALTA
TUE 29 NOVEMBER
Bus from Salta to Buenos Aires, ~18h (from Plaidmoon)
WED 30 NOVEMBER
PIT STOP #2: BUENOS AIRES (confirmed)
Bus from Buenos Aires to Asuncion, ~15h
THR 1 DECEMBER
PZ 704 from Buenos Aires EZE to Asuncion, 0918-1035
G3 7471 from Buenos Aires EZE to Asuncion, 1519-1625
PIT STOP #3: ASUNCION (confirmed)
FRI 2 DECEMBER
PZ 712 from Asuncion to Sao Paulo, 1800-2117
JJ 8062 from Sao Paulo to Milan, 2240-1400 (1310)
JJ 8108 from Sao Paulo to Paris, 2320-1340
JJ 8070 from Sao Paulo to Frankfurt, 2325-1514 (1410)
SAT 3 DECEMBER
AF 2322 from Paris to Munich, 1545-1700 (1535-1705)
LH 114 from Frankfurt to Munich, 1627-1710 (1620-1725)
IQ 1861 from Milan to Munich, 1705-1810 (1705-1820)
PIT STOP #4: BAVARIA (strange to have a night leg)
SUN 4 DECEMBER
LH 1854 from Munich to Milan, 0909-1006 (0905-1015)
Train from Milan to Turin, 1110-1255/1115-1310/1215-1410
(Not sure why teams would be spotted in Rome airport?)
PIT STOP #5: TURIN (confirmed)
There are direct flights from Milan to Baku, although they arrive at night. You can get from Baku to Dar Es Salaam or Nairobi via London, Dubai, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, or Paris. Nairobi then has good connections to most of Asia.
apskip:
see below
apskip:
Dom El,
I see that you are the original source of the 40,000 miles (from CBS) estimated for AR20. Somebody (and I cannot find the post so I am not sure who, although it may have been you) suggested that a verification of CBS figures would be useful. I can't do that yet for AR20, but I can for AR19. I spent the time to find the mileage for each leg of AR19. Now, everyone needs to be aware that a big part of the difference between the real distance and a direct nonstop estimate of mileage is due to connecting points for air travel not being on the shortest route line. However, that is not the biggest part of the discrepancy, which is that air miles are nautical miles, 15% longer than statute (land) miles. So I believe that in its calculations CBS takes the air miles and multiplies them by 1.15. If you do that you come out close to reconciling the numbers. Here are mine, with air miles marked by A and statue miles marked by S:
LAX TPE 8718 A
TPE JKT 4487 A
JKT JOG 270 S
Jogjakarta to/from Borobudur 25 x 2 = 50 S
JOG JKT 222 A
JKT HKT 1073 A note - 2 teams added on about 800 air miles by routing via Bangkok
HKT BKK 439 A
BKK SIN 860 A
SIN JNB 5267 A
JNB LLW 972 A
LLW to Salami by bus and return 100 x 2 = 200 S
LLW NBO 855 A
NBO AMS 4106 A
AMS CPH 377 A
CPH Billund 150 by car S
Billund Hamburg 150 by car S
Hamburg Brussels 305 by train S
Brussels to around Belgium by car 200 S
BRU PTY 4663 A
PTY ATL 1740 A
Statute Miles 1325
Total Air Mileage (Panama City to be added in) 33790 conversion to Statute Miles 38858
Grand Total Statute-Equivalent Miles 40,183
theschnauzers:
--- Quote from: apskip on January 27, 2012, 07:56:01 PM ---Dom El,
I see that you are the original source of the 40,000 miles (from CBS) estimated for AR20. Somebody (and I cannot find the post so I am not sure who, although it may have been you) suggested that a verification of CBS figures would be useful. I can't do that yet for AR20, but I can for AR19. I spent the time to find the mileage for each leg of AR19. Now, everyone needs to be aware that a big part of the difference between the real distance and a direct nonstop estimate of mileage is due to connecting points for air travel not being on the shortest route line. However, that is not the biggest part of the discrepancy, which is that air miles are nautical miles, 15% longer than statute (land) miles. So I believe that in its calculations CBS takes the air miles and multiplies them by 1.15. If you do that you come out close to reconciling the numbers. Here are mine, with air miles marked by A and statue miles marked by S:
--- End quote ---
The CBS mileage estimates have been driving people crazy since the beginning 10 years ago. That they're converting everything to statute miles to explain the often-observed discrepancy makes a lot of sense -- as there were seasons where it seemed as if CBS had substituted kilometers for miles and labeled the result as miles.
Hopefully someone will give the prior seasons a go at some point and see if we can match up the mileage to fit whatever miles Phil tells the winning team on the final mat season after season.
Neobie:
If Elizabeth saw four teams arriving at Rome FCO while boarding an EasyJet flight to Geneva on the morning of 4 Dec, Bavaria could not have been Leg Four.
Docol saw teams checking in at Asuncion on 2 Dec at 5.23pm. The quickest way they can get to Neuschwanstein Castle in Fussen is:
PZ 712 from Asuncion to Sao Paulo: 1800-2117
JJ 8070 from Sao Paulo to Frankfurt: 2325-3/1514
Minimum 15min for customs and getting car: 1514-1532
Drive from Frankfurt to Fussen: 1532-1923
Minimum 15min for tasks and Pit Stop: 1923-1938
Now even if we assume a TBC and teams have to go straight to Rome:
Drive from Fussen to Munich: 1938-2130
Minimum 30min to purchase tickets and check in: 2130-2200
The only flights that leave after 10pm from Munich are... Hong Kong and Moscow. The earliest flight the next day to Rome gets them in at 11.00am, too late for Elizabeth to see them before she leaves at 9.50am. A connection through Frankfurt to get them into Rome earlier requires a 23min layover, which I don't think any team, let alone four of them, would try.
There's the absurd leg planning that would have teams travel by land all the way back to Frankfurt for the 7.25am flight to Rome. A train would require teams to leave at 8.33pm (giving them at most 1h10 for racing), and driving would require teams to leave at 3.02am (giving them 7h24 to perform all tasks at Fussen). There's also the possibility of teams driving to Zurich for a 7.20am flight to Rome (giving teams 8h30 at Fussen).
Alright, sure - so driving to Frankfurt or Zurich is technically possible. But what would the logic be in having teams fly to Frankfurt, drive four hours to Fussen, to not have a Pit Stop, then driving another three hours to another airport to get to Rome, when their final destination is Turin? Or the logic in not using the Munich airport, which has direct flights the next morning to Turin, Milan, and Rome?
Add that to the fact that if Bavaria is Leg Four, it would take place entirely at night, which would make the leg a complete waste of scenery. TPTB can be mad sometimes, but not this mad. The Bavaria leg has to take place after the Turin leg.
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