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BB13 Discussion of the Live Feeds #4
RJL:
--- Quote from: Albert5433 on September 03, 2011, 10:55:18 PM ---i think the social game that is played by jordan, adam and porshe is just as interesting as those who win the comps and fight so hard.
sometimes subtlety and finesse takes more talent than hanging on a swinging banana or crawling through goo.
in my opinion.
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I agree that the social game is important too, Albert. It should not be overlooked in the final decision, imo. Does it take more talent? I guess that depends on the type of social play we are comparing, to a physical endurance competition. I mean lets be honest, Kalia is good at questions, but ask her what is harder, answering the questions, or moving for more than 60 seconds continously... :lol:
I honestly don't think Jordan has played much of a social game at all. She simply happened to be dating the guy who was considered a bigger threat to win competitions(and thus have power to make moves) so he was obviously going to be the target over her. And, as circumstance would have it now, Rachael is considered to be the bigger competitor in competitions. As sweet and honest as folks feel Jordan is, I have yet to hear, and/or see her do anything in the house this season, except exist.
The same goes for Adam. Although, he did win a veto... He was never a target. Even when he was on the block, he didn't have to fight and work for anything. He simply existed next to bigger perceived threats. What "social" work has he really had to do? Agree with everything everyone says? That's not great gameplay, imo of course... Should he make a move now, that would change things dramatically.
Kalia, has won some comps. Although I consider her first HOH to be a negative mark on her gameplay. Again, just my view. However, socially, she has tried and failed to really do anything by herself. Dani carried her along, as Jordan and Rachael both said today. She has only Dani to hope for a vote from the current evicted HG's, imo. And that being said, I think Dani would vote for Rachael if given the choice today. She(Dani) actually seems to respect the game she played.
Porsche is interesting, I'll agree with that. Her early social game, much like Rachael's, was nothing to brag about. But she has really done well for herself in that regard of late. And she is a good competitor as well. Probably would be my runner up to Rachael at this point, as far as all around game goes.
All respectfully my opinion, of course.
Rebellion:
--- Quote ---What's great about this board is that we can have different perspectives. I am feeling more admiration for R than ever because that gal really pushes and aches in those comps but she is determined. J, OTOH, claimed her arms hurt so she dropped early than kind of whined because people will think she can't do anything.
Jordon is likeable but I have a problem with some of the underhanded comments she has been making about R when it is only because of R and her guts to push herself in comps that J is still there.
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EXACTLY!! :hrt:
Kate04:
--- Quote from: Rebellion on September 03, 2011, 11:16:22 PM ---I like Jordan however, I do agree with Kate04, that Jordan is really not being that nice to Rachel, especially considering that Rachel has kept her ASS safe, if not for Rachel one or both of them would be gone, Jordan hasn't done a thing, her arms hurt, she's not strong enough, blah blah blah!
I think she is getting ready to dump the redhead, cause she knows that it really isnt likely the jury will give her the money since she already won and she is trying to find someone (Adum) who has done less than her in this game!
When someone is that nice, there is reason to suspect them, she is just too nice (and yes there is such a thing as too nice).
I hope that Rachel wakes up and smells the coffee, sooner rather than later, she reacted to the quip by Jordan to Julie and also she rolled her eyes when Jordan was talking to Kalia and Porshe up in the HOH last week, when she said " I know you don't like/trust Rachel".
I agree Albert that having a good social game is important however, you also need to win comps, not dominate them but at least win them, Adum finally won a veto, but Jordan again hasn't really won anything it was given to her by Jeff and Brendon.
I do want Rachel to get the whole shebang!! but I would like Adum to be 2nd. Jordan has won already and has really been a huge floater in this game. JMO
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Rachel without a doubt deserves to win. The gal has guts and tenacity which no one else has.
And I am glad that you, too, picked up on Jordon's "little" backstabbing comments about Rachel. Rachel didn't see it coming and on both occasions was clearly taken aback. I hope she's doing some analyzing of the game and realizing get Jordon before Jordon gets her because J does NOT deserve another $500 for basically riding coattails the entire summer. Granted she is sweet, but that is not enough to be declared a 2 time winner.
kg852:
I don't think it is Jordan being a backstabber - I think with K/P she was just laying it out there in the heat of the moment. With Julie, that was kind of weird and I picked up on it. I think Rachel kind of owes Jordan too a little bit because Jordan literally babysat her back when she was being crazy Rachel - I think she would have gone home that week if Jordan and Jeff didn't rally the troops around her. I would love for Jordan and Rachel to be the final 2. I think Rachel should win if that is the case, but she might not because she does stupid stuff to shoot herself in the foot like leave not so nice send off videos - it is like she doesn't realize these people are going to vote in the end. In a way Jordan still has to babysit her by still having to tell her to bite her tongue. I will admit Rachel has been a lot better about it on her own lately though.
Paisley:
Earlier today, Jordan and Rachel were laughing about what Jordan said to Julie. It's not a big deal to Rachel, because she knows full well how she acted earlier in the game.
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