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Ongoing BB13 Discussion of the Live Feeds #3
BamBam:
It's sad to see the mean girls in high school never grew out of it and continue on as they get older. I have felt sorry for Rachel on a number of levels. Brendon treats her like crap. The others in the house constantly pick on her, not that she doesn't sometimes deserve it, but usually they carry it way too far. Rachel obviously has self esteem issues and I would love for her to get the help she needs. I do think she is a different person outside of the house and Ragen being good friends with her now seems to support that idea.
I am still confused by Shelly. I don't think she is a bad person but has gotten caught up in this game that is Big Brother. So many people are bashing her and I just don't see it. Dani and Kalia are much worse and Dani's constant whining and complaining get on my nerves so much more. Kalia just never shuts up!
Libby:
I agree BamBam....with everything you just said.
The Rachel we've seen this week is almost like having a new person in the house. And I almost like her. She's obviously still a spoiled brat that pouts and whines when she doesn't get her way, but she's SO much more likeable than I've ever seen her in the past. And she has MUCH better control over herself and her emotions without her dictator/fiance in her ear and on her back.
This season has been such a roller coaster for me. I started season firmly Team Dani and I was torn as to whether I'd even be able to watch the feeds with Rachel in the house. Now, I find Rachel infinitely more tolerable than Dani. I just want to knock the entitled smug look off of Dani's whiney face. And I know she thinks her little zingers are funny, but she's just mean for the sake of being mean. Nastiness directed at other people like that is usually a huge sign of insecurity, which I guess I can understand given her upbringing. Someone posted a link to Dani's livejournal from ten years ago (age 15) on facebook the other day and it was pretty interesting. She was far more likeable, but even then, you could see the brattiness that we are all witnessing. There was one entry where she was upset because her grandmother had had a car accident and it was going to cause her to miss a concert. Not a word about her grandmother's condition or being grateful if she was ok....just snarky pettiness because she wasn't going to get to go to the concert.
del227:
BamBam...agree with everything you just said above.. I actually tolerate Rachel more now without Brendon around and do feel the girl has issues :tup:
As far as Dani and Kalia go they are just mean girls..the one good thing is Dani is about to fall from her own lil pedastal after Jeff puts her up in the veto ceremony only this time she can't blame her Dad on her failure. Kalia is just plain snobby can't stand her..Porsche..well she hasn't got a clue..she can bash but she can't talk to other HG's when her butts on the line and make any sense
RabbitInTheMoon:
--- Quote from: BamBam on August 22, 2011, 12:23:29 PM ---It's sad to see the mean girls in high school never grew out of it and continue on as they get older. I have felt sorry for Rachel on a number of levels. Brendon treats her like crap. The others in the house constantly pick on her, not that she doesn't sometimes deserve it, but usually they carry it way too far. Rachel obviously has self esteem issues and I would love for her to get the help she needs. I do think she is a different person outside of the house and Ragen being good friends with her now seems to support that idea.
I am still confused by Shelly. I don't think she is a bad person but has gotten caught up in this game that is Big Brother. So many people are bashing her and I just don't see it. Dani and Kalia are much worse and Dani's constant whining and complaining get on my nerves so much more. Kalia just never shuts up!
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I agree. I have found that I acutally like Rachel when Brendon isn't around and she does get a lot of flack that sometimes isn't deserved. I give her a lot of credit for stepping up to the plates this time. She seems to be holding her head high and is very determined to play the game to the best of her ability. I also was happy that Jordan quickly jumped to Rachel's defense to point out that a lot of the crap Dani and Kalia are spreading now aren't true. That Rachel IS being normal and not doing what she's been accused of. (can't remember the details about what happened sorry!)
People can be cruel. I think more abuse is coming Rachels way and if it's unjustly done then I'll feel even worse. I can't even imagine what it must feel like to have the negativity thrown at her from BB houseguests and from fans of the show. I know she brought on most of it herself, but I still can't imagine what it would feel like to be in her shoes. I think I'd be falling apart too.
Libby:
I think the Jordan influence on the new-and-improved Rachel is significant. The fact that she has a companion and a friend (one that doesn't belittle her constantly and actually listens to her when she speaks) is a huge calming influence on Rachel. And Jordan's not afraid to speak up to Rachel when she needs to, but Jordan can do it in a way that doesn't seem mean or hurtful. You know Jordan hasn't a mean bone in her body, so when she tells Rachel to calm down and stop acting nuts, Rachel has to listen to it because it holds a lot more weight than anyone else delivering those words.
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