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Kate04:

--- Quote from: Albert5433 on August 17, 2011, 08:40:21 AM ---I know this is an ignorant question, but I havent seen Shelly backstab anyone yet...she has always voted EXACTLY as she says she will.

Her lying or throwing people under the bus seem no worse than most players...the only ones in the game that I think havent lied are Jordan, Kalia and Adam.

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On the second airing on TV, Dom took her aside and confided in her that he trusted her more than anyone in the house and that they needed to stick together.  She did her usual oh yes oh yes.  Dom then confided about plans to get Brenchel out or something similar.  Shelly acted supportive of his plan, then proceeded to take her other face upstairs to the HOH room where Brenchel were and blabbed everything that Dom had confided in her.  Rachel was furious and proceeded to put the plan in action to get Dom evicted.  Since that day Shelly hasn't deviated from her plan of running from one group to the next betraying confidences and badmouthing people.  She knows exactly what she is doing.  Can't wait til she's gone - she seems so ugly to me inside and out. 

Kate04:

--- Quote from: BelleJar on August 17, 2011, 08:48:21 AM ---So, I'm back to that I really think Shelly doesn't think she's lying. 

On one of the DR sessions in last week's episodes, Shelly admits to taking bits and pieces of info to both sides, recognizing that she's doing some lying.  But, I don't think she thinks that she's lying or playing both sides or not maintaining the moral highground.   But, on Sunday's episode she was pretty upset in her DR session about Rachel telling Jordan and Jeff that she would vote them out, etc.   The lie was made more clear when the BB producers showed us Shelly's lie.   And, yet she's still in the DR saying Rachel is lying and crying.  Some people convince themselves that they aren't lying and would even pass a lie detector test.  I think Shelly is one of those people, because really she can't be acting that upset ALL the time about Rachel.   

I just think she has a different definition of lying and moral highground than I do.

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I don't think lying is the biggest issue.  It's trust and no one in that house can trust Shelly.   She runs to any group she feels can get her closer to the money with any tidbits of info that she latches onto that will make someone look bad and make Shelly look good for giving them the info.  She'll rat out anyone to further her cause.

Kate04:

--- Quote from: del227 on August 17, 2011, 09:25:52 AM ---Oh Boy where do I start  :stare

The Brenchel trainwreck continues and last night the fight in the HN room was just another car on that train..am I wrong in thinking that CBS and Allison Grodner needs to step up and get these 2 some counseling..ya have to wonder if they have some security right behind that wall when those 2 are going at it! I was waiting for Brendon to slap Rachel last night it really bothered me..he hit that bed instead of her..Wake up CBS these 2 need to be pulled outta there and off to relationship counseling!! Her family that is watching needs to to get her out of there and home and start showing her the tapes of their confrontations and tell her it's not a healthy relationship! I've seen a few of Rachel'spersonal "friends" post here..be a friend and do a intervention..this girl is so off I'm afraid that her issues could lead to lead to a very devastating ending!  I'm not a Brenchel Fan but I am human..it is very clear these people need help now!!

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I know what you mean.  Many of us noticed before B was evicted that he was abusive to R; then he left and they were all smiles and kissy/huggy for awhile when he came back.  Rachel would be very wise to run, not walk away from him when the season ends but she won't because she is SO incredibly dependent on him.  So she takes the abuse.  It's sad and scarey and I hope they go for help too!!

Lily:
Not a fan of Bren/Rach at all, but he is very verbally abusive and I really hope she gets away from him. On another note, if he was so worried about her image, would they really have sex every day, and everywhere, with all those cameras! That shows no respect at all on his part.

del227:

--- Quote from: Kate04 on August 17, 2011, 10:34:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: del227 on August 17, 2011, 09:25:52 AM ---Oh Boy where do I start  :stare

The Brenchel trainwreck continues and last night the fight in the HN room was just another car on that train..am I wrong in thinking that CBS and Allison Grodner needs to step up and get these 2 some counseling..ya have to wonder if they have some security right behind that wall when those 2 are going at it! I was waiting for Brendon to slap Rachel last night it really bothered me..he hit that bed instead of her..Wake up CBS these 2 need to be pulled outta there and off to relationship counseling!! Her family that is watching needs to to get her out of there and home and start showing her the tapes of their confrontations and tell her it's not a healthy relationship! I've seen a few of Rachel'spersonal "friends" post here..be a friend and do a intervention..this girl is so off I'm afraid that her issues could lead to lead to a very devastating ending!  I'm not a Brenchel Fan but I am human..it is very clear these people need help now!!

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I know what you mean.  Many of us noticed before B was evicted that he was abusive to R; then he left and they were all smiles and kissy/huggy for awhile when he came back.  Rachel would be very wise to run, not walk away from him when the season ends but she won't because she is SO incredibly dependent on him.  So she takes the abuse.  It's sad and scarey and I hope they go for help too!!

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--- Quote from: Lily on August 17, 2011, 10:43:53 AM ---Not a fan of Bren/Rach at all, but he is very verbally abusive and I really hope she gets away from him. On another note, if he was so worried about her image, would they really have sex every day, and everywhere, with all those cameras! That shows no respect at all on his part.

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I agree with you both..The abuse is terrible/crazy/so obvious..her friends and family need to step in if they don't there is no help for these 2..the sex in the house is rediculous! They are just asking for more youtube embarassment..somewhere in these discussions said porno movies are next..and I agree..they are needing money neither of them have enough common sense to shake a stick at!! Financial needs/desperation lead many people to do crazy things  :( Rachel I fear will become that next porn star! It won't take much a lil money and alchohol and she's filming..sad very sad..Again not a Brenchel Fan at all but I do see these 2 needing some guidance!

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