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AR19 Primary TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS
Chateau d If:
--- Quote from: apskip on July 10, 2011, 03:08:52 PM ---Here are all the flights that have arrived in Atlanta today (starting with Chateau's favorite from Tel Aviv):
TLV DL153 522a
AMS DL135 1219p
FRA DL15 945a, LH444 1159a
SNN OAE428 1037a
CDG DL27 106p, AF682 217p
Leipzig that world Airways charter 8505 again, 742a
LGW DL17 134p
MAD DL109 135p
ZRH DL67 224p
MUC DL131 225p
CPH DL69 304p
plus flights over the Atlantic or soon to arrive ATL from Stuttgart, Rome, Dusseldorf (6 hours late), Milan, and London-Heathrow.
My opinion is that the AMS origin and the CDG origin are the most consistent with that tweet, since the tweeter did not identify whether he/she was at a gate or after U.S.Customs. If World Race Productions wanted to be really sneaky and had the F3 teams depart from Tel Aviv, a 522a arrival could have been difficult to spot.
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Check your sources, the flight form CDG is DL 37 not DL 27
The FRA DL15 actually takes off at 9:45 am and lands at 1:45 pm
Also, what about
DXB at 5:45 am ?
MEX at 5:43 am ?
theschnauzers:
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on July 10, 2011, 01:38:07 PM ---The timing of the recent tweets from Atlanta suggest that Teams have arrived on flight DL 37 that left CDG at 9:20 AM - Sun 10-Jul-2011 and arrived at ATL at 1:06 PM - Sun 10-Jul-2011 (scheduled for 1:30 pm)
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What was it I said yesterday?
apskip:
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on July 10, 2011, 03:27:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on July 10, 2011, 03:08:52 PM ---Here are all the flights that have arrived in Atlanta today (starting with Chateau's favorite from Tel Aviv):
TLV DL153 522a
AMS DL135 1219p
FRA DL15 945a, LH444 1159a
SNN OAE428 1037a
CDG DL27 106p, AF682 217p
Leipzig that world Airways charter 8505 again, 742a
LGW DL17 134p
MAD DL109 135p
ZRH DL67 224p
MUC DL131 225p
CPH DL69 304p
plus flights over the Atlantic or soon to arrive ATL from Stuttgart, Rome, Dusseldorf (6 hours late), Milan, and London-Heathrow.
My opinion is that the AMS origin and the CDG origin are the most consistent with that tweet, since the tweeter did not identify whether he/she was at a gate or after U.S.Customs. If World Race Productions wanted to be really sneaky and had the F3 teams depart from Tel Aviv, a 522a arrival could have been difficult to spot.
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Check your sources, the flight form CDG is DL 37 not DL 27
The FRA DL15 actually takes off at 9:45 am and lands at 1:45 pm
Also, what about
DXB at 5:45 am ?
MEX at 5:43 am ?
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Chateau,
Is Mexico City in Europe (even extended Europe which goes as far as Tel Aviv by my definition? Not exactly. Same for Dubai.
You are correct that I have a typo in transferring information for DL37. I also made a mistake on DK15 and LH444 by reporting their departure times rather than the arrival times which were what was needed (however, this does not impact either of the 2 primary flights which might have been the one used from CDG or AMS).
apskip:
I decided to go the extra mile and examine the hypothesis of where in extended Europe and the Middle East flights could ahve originated and landed in Paris CDG or Amsterdam Schiphol by 8am today. Here is the list for CDG arrivals:
TLV LY229
AMM AF3887
BEY ME209
RUH (Riyadh) SV143
Brussels SN3631 (but why would anyone want to go through CDG when you can go nonstop?)
MAD VY8202 (same comment)
NCE AF7713
Here is the list for AMS arrival, which is much larger due to KLM's Cityhopper flight program from many large cities):
BAH KL445
DXB KL428
SVO KL902
BRE KL1750
HAM KL1776
BER KL1818
DUS KL1852
CGN KL1804
CPH KL424
ATH KL1572
NUE (Nuremburg) KL1880
GOT (Gothenberg) KL1152
OTP (Bucharest) KL1372
AAL (Aalborg, Denmark) KL1314
KRS (Kristiansand, Norway) KL1201
BOD (Bordeaux) KL1314
OSL (Oslo) KL1212
Chateau d If:
--- Quote ---Is Mexico City in Europe (even extended Europe which goes as far as Tel Aviv by my definition? Not exactly. Same for Dubai.
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Apskip, when you write :
--- Quote ---Here are all the flights that have arrived in Atlanta today (starting with Chateau's favorite from Tel Aviv):
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That means you are listing all the flights that have arrived in Atlanta today ...
If you are filtering the list based on the being in Europe you should say so.
The reason MEX and DBX are important incoming airports is that routes that originate from Europe could connect through these airports.
Please see my post of 3:38 pm (eastern time) where I present the possibility of flight DL 37 being the one used by Teams today. You reiterated that possibility 30 minutes later in a post of your own at 4:08 pm. You may want to read the thread before you present information as your own.
Also, regarding your list of flights connecting with DL 37 to get to ATL, I hope you were aware that I had already posted a list in the Speculation thread for flights connecting in CDG and using the DL 37 flight. You may want to take a look at that before you generate a list of your own.
* Brussels SN3631 I already listed this one, it's the BRU that arrives at 7:30 am in CDG.
* MAD VY8202 I already listed this one, it's the MAD that arrives at 7:55 am in CDG.
* NCE AF7713 I already listed this one, it's the NCE that arrives at 8:00 am in CDG.
From your list, the following are ruled out because they don't exist or there are alternate routes that would get a Team to ATL earlier even if they left later from the exact same location.
* TLV LY229 "Sorry, we could not find the flight LY 229 in our system." (flightstates.com)
* AMM AF3887 This is not valid for consideration because Teams would not select it because they could have landed 20 minutes sooner (based on Schedule) by taking AF 1306 leaving CDG at 7:25 am and arriving at 8:35 am in DUS. Then taking DL 25 leaving DUS at 9:20 am and arriving at 1:10 pm in ATL.
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