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theschnauzers:
We can no longer assume a standard pit stop of 12 hours for any leg. That's been true for a few races now.
A no pitstop rest period is just as likely as one that extends beyond 24 to 36 hours. The producers will undoubtedly adjust the rest period at the pit stop in order to eliminate problems with teams making a sole once-daily flight to the next destination, especially here. If this last leg was an emergency replacement leg, including having teams reach Bangkok for the pit stop, then I'm sure the rest period will be adjusted so that all teams make that once daily flight.

georgiapeach:
We have had 10 hour Pitstops before in order to catch a flight... But why do we think they have to rush at all?

Could someone please (re) spell out where we were on what days? I was still thinking we had an extended PitStop in Bangkok of up to 48 hours before departure.

Can someone check my days and tell me where I might have gone wrong please? ???

** means confirmed flight sightings

June 24>>flying to Phuket, late eve arrival **
June 25>>Phuket leg + 24 hour Pitstop
June 26>>more Phuket/Phang Nga, overnight bus ride Phuket to Bangkok
June 27>> Bangkok leg

black hole


June 30>>dep Bangkok
June 30>>Malawi arrival (via Joburg)**

Neobie:
I'll work backwards from the flight from Johannesburg to Lilongwe, SA 170 (30 Jun 1000-1225).

Now the direct flight from Bangkok to Johannesburg that Apskip has above doesn't fly on this day of the week. However, teams leaving Bangkok the evening of 29 Jun have plenty of other options (showing the quickest itineraries only), all connecting to the same Johannesburg to Lilongwe flight above:
3K 514 then SQ 478 via Singapore to Johannesburg (29 Jun 2120 - 30 Jun 0700)
AK 751 then MH 203 via Kuala Lumpur to Johannesburg (29 Jun 2020 - 30 Jun 0600)
CX 702 then CX 749 via Hong Kong to Johannesburg (29 Jun 1840 - 30 Jun 0700)

The first four teams checked in at 9.30am on 27 Jun. TPTB should be fine in having teams depart the early afternoon of 29 Jun, so I'd say probably a good 50 hour Pit Stop? The easiest explanation is that the replaced legs probably required more travel to get to Lilongwe, and hence the extra time that production got to twiddle with their thumbs...

A truly daring team that was released too early can try this itinerary to gain a full... ten minutes!
Bangkok to Singapore (29 Jun 1115-1430) to Perth (1550-2105) to Johannesburg (2350-0520)
To Lusaka (30 Jun 0635-0830) to Lilongwe (1105-1215)

For record's sake, here are the timings of the first four Pit Stops:
Taipei (12h), Yogyakarta I (22h), Yogyakarta II (18h), Phuket (24h)

apskip:

--- Quote from: georgiapeach on October 26, 2011, 01:00:04 PM ---We have had 10 hour Pitstops before in order to catch a flight... But why do we think they have to rush at all?

Could someone please (re) spell out where we were on what days? I was still thinking we had an extended PitStop in Bangkok of up to 48 hours before departure.

Can someone check my days and tell me where I might have gone wrong please? ???

** means confirmed flight sightings

June 24>>flying to Phuket, late eve arrival **
June 25>>Phuket leg + 24 hour Pitstop
June 26>>more Phuket/Phang Nga, overnight bus ride Phuket to Bangkok
June 27>> Bangkok leg

black hole


June 30>>dep Bangkok
June 30>>Malawi arrival (via Joburg)**

--- End quote ---

I admit I did not give this a lot of thought. However, what we know is that the full Phuket area leg (#4) was begun on June 24 and completed June 25. I assume that the Phuket/Bangkok leg (#5) started on June 26 and finished on June 27 at around 930am to about noon for the 7 remaining teams. That means there are about 51 hours before the leading teams need to be at Bangkok airport. It also means that the lagging teams have about 48 hours before they need to be there, assuming the June 30 TG703 departure which connects them perfectly to SA170 in Johannesburg. Allowing ample safety factor against the possibility that adverse weather in route to JNB affects that connection, if I were World Race Productions with that much cushion I would use a bit of it to get them to JNB sooner than the 3 hours connection that I otherwise forsee. I don't know which flight teams might take (and I think they could well spread out) but I am going to figure it out (check back in this post soon) and I bet WRP was able to too. 

apskip:
I have done due diligence based on the assumption that teams MAY have left Bangkok a day earlier than necessary to provide the cushion delineated in my prior post above.

I found that departure from Bangkok to Addis Ababa on ET609 0115 0630 June 29 connected with ET809 0840 1320 and teams under this scenario waited at JNB (where I believe they could well have been spotted if so) until SA170 on June 30.

The departure from Bangkok to Nairobi would be similar.

So would the departure from Bangkok to Dubai.

My analysis of Singapore (except for that weird route down to Perth and then across the Indian Ocean) is unchanged from yesterday. Also my analysis of Mumbai and Delhi is unchanged. 

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