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Lion:
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--- Quote from: redskevin88 on December 20, 2011, 05:39:23 AM ---To any former racer who might be reading this, has anybody actually tried to throw the third leg, reading about the third place curse?
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If they did, they'd be stupid
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They may choose not to take the Fast Forward mission if there is one in Leg 3. :cmaslol
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Unlike Survivor there is absolutely no strategy in throwing any leg /challenge on the Race.
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There is. See S7, where Romber threw the challenge of having a traditional Argentinian feast.
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Good point...that was epic....but in modern TAR it will never happen again.
apskip:
--- Quote from: SuperTux on December 21, 2011, 10:58:13 PM ---
There is. See S7, where Romber threw the challenge of having a traditional Argentinian feast.
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SuperTux, I totally disagree. Rob in AR7 ep. 3 knew he was not going to finish the 4 pound meat feast. He expected that several others were not going to either. His very strategic move was to take the 4 hour penalty for not finishing a ROADBLOCK before anyone else did. Although when the penalty was applied that put him behind Alex, Uchenna, Greg and Ron, it also put him ahead of Ray and Meredith, both of whom took the penalty immediately after he did. Patrick did not rally and finish without penalty until Debbie and Bianca arrived and then he finished before Debbie did.
The bottom line is that the phrase "threw the challenge" is not close to what actually happened. "He guaranteed survival" is a better characterization.
theschnauzers:
There are two factors that could be raised about that roadblock a little differently, but no less not "throwing" the roadblock. First Rob and Amber weren't going to finish in first place, whether Rob finished that roadblock or not, and Rob abd Amber weren't going to finish in last place by not finishing the roadblock and taking the penalty. Other than the possible effect it had on their check-in time (and departure time on the next leg), and the likelihood they would run into another bunching point at some point, Rob had nothing else to lose by taking the penalty. The other point is that Rob smartly got other teams to join him in taking the penalty, and thereby provided the likelihood that Rob and Amber would be able to finish the leg ahead of at least one of those teams. (I'm trying to state this from the time perspective of what the viewer knew at the moment this first aired and not with the knowledge of what actually followed. It was a smart move given the way the rules were then set (and having a group quit a task and take a penalty hasn't happened since.)
SuperTux:
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--- Quote from: SuperTux on December 21, 2011, 10:58:13 PM ---
There is. See S7, where Romber threw the challenge of having a traditional Argentinian feast.
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SuperTux, I totally disagree. Rob in AR7 ep. 3 knew he was not going to finish the 4 pound meat feast. He expected that several others were not going to either. His very strategic move was to take the 4 hour penalty for not finishing a ROADBLOCK before anyone else did. Although when the penalty was applied that put him behind Alex, Uchenna, Greg and Ron, it also put him ahead of Ray and Meredith, both of whom took the penalty immediately after he did. Patrick did not rally and finish without penalty until Debbie and Bianca arrived and then he finished before Debbie did.
The bottom line is that the phrase "threw the challenge" is not close to what actually happened. "He guaranteed survival" is a better characterization.
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Well... Do you mean that "to throw the challenge" is equal to pursuing #1 in that leg?
apskip:
SuperTux,
The only way that could have happened was for all of the individuals who did the ROADBLOCK to elect after Rob did to take the 4 hour penalty. He knew that was remotely possible but quite unlikely.
It should be obvious that "guarantee survival" meant Rob was only trying to not finish last. He was more successful than that, as Ray and Meredith a short time later took the penalty, Patrick had trouble finishing and Debbie did not start until Rob's penalty had already expired.
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