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theschnauzers:

--- Quote from: redskevin88 on December 16, 2013, 08:46:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: theschnauzers on December 10, 2013, 02:30:54 PM ---A 24 hour penalty would be assessed on their departure time for the following leg; it probably would lead to an eiimination, depending on what is planned (a long plane trip with an HOO could well reduce the gap significantly.)
In the early seasons we did see teams fall behind by 24 hours on an NEL, and they continued Racing. In TAR 1, Margarita and Frank had a 24 hour lead headed to India, and by the end of the next leg the other teams had caught up in India; In TAR 11, one team was a day ahead in arriving in Tanzania, due to flight scheduling issues in an heavy travel period in Africa, but an HOO allowed other teams to catch up; and in TAR 1 beginning in Thailand, two teams fell 24 hours behind the lead teams, and the last team was eliminated in Beijing, and the other team never caught up before the end of the Race, they had just started the final leg when the winning team reached the finish line.

One thing is clear the show does not switch NELs around because a team fell far behind, or quit the Race, or anything else. Its a governmental rule dealing with contests on television that prevents it, and the producers literally have to have put the plans (including alternative legs and so forth) in an sealed affidivit before filming starts. (That may have changed at some point, but it was clearly the case during the early seasons.)

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--- Quote ---Here's a good question. What if a team Dave & Connor were unable to continue in Leg 2, or decided to quit?
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I think TPTB will do everything possible to get the team to check in at the pit stop and have them quit in an elimination leg. When you watched every episode of every season, you can tell when the last place team is encouraged by production to finish any difficult task in an NEL and not quit unless it becomes medically unavoidable. This is what they did with Dave and Connor, and they were allowed to go directly to the pit stop on the following elimination leg.

--- Quote ---Will the NELs be changed since the next leg was a KRL?
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No. They can't and the order of elimination points aren't change, even if the leg itself has to be switched to a backup planned leg.


--- Quote ---Can a team possibly sue CBS?
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From an early season of Survivor, a copy of one of those agreements with CBS made it online because of a lawsuit. It's clear from that example that the participants waives their claim against the network in the event of an injury; and on the otherhand, CBS always have medical staff traveling with the teams and have local medical resources available (one reason why private security travels with, but out of sight of the camera, the teams). IIRC, only one lawsuit against Mark Burnett ever made it past the pre-trial process, and it was settled in some way, bu no court has ever refused to enforce the no claim provisions of that key agreement. (That lawsuit came out of the first season of Survivor when one of the contestants claim Burnett interferred to prevent Rudy from being voted off early in the season, but that was never proved; and such claims are almost impossible to prove since all producer contact is recorded by the camera crews.)
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redskevin88:

--- Quote from: theschnauzers on December 16, 2013, 09:41:28 PM ---
--- Quote ---Can a team possibly sue CBS?
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From an early season of Survivor, a copy of one of those agreements with CBS made it online because of a lawsuit. It's clear from that example that the participants waives their claim against the network in the event of an injury; and on the otherhand, CBS always have medical staff traveling with the teams and have local medical resources available (one reason why private security travels with, but out of sight of the camera, the teams). IIRC, only one lawsuit against Mark Burnett ever made it past the pre-trial process, and it was settled in some way, bu no court has ever refused to enforce the no claim provisions of that key agreement. (That lawsuit came out of the first season of Survivor when one of the contestants claim Burnett interferred to prevent Rudy from being voted off early in the season, but that was never proved; and such claims are almost impossible to prove since all producer contact is recorded by the camera crews.)

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My question was if let's say for discussion sake that John & Jessica's* position was affected because of a last-minute change of legs, and they somehow found out, could they sue CBS?

*I'm just using a random team here.

Air:
They can't prove that they would have done better on the other leg though.

theschnauzers:

--- Quote from: redskevin88 on December 17, 2013, 04:27:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: theschnauzers on December 16, 2013, 09:41:28 PM ---
--- Quote ---Can a team possibly sue CBS?
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From an early season of Survivor, a copy of one of those agreements with CBS made it online because of a lawsuit. It's clear from that example that the participants waives their claim against the network in the event of an injury; and on the otherhand, CBS always have medical staff traveling with the teams and have local medical resources available (one reason why private security travels with, but out of sight of the camera, the teams). IIRC, only one lawsuit against Mark Burnett ever made it past the pre-trial process, and it was settled in some way, bu no court has ever refused to enforce the no claim provisions of that key agreement. (That lawsuit came out of the first season of Survivor when one of the contestants claim Burnett interferred to prevent Rudy from being voted off early in the season, but that was never proved; and such claims are almost impossible to prove since all producer contact is recorded by the camera crews.)

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My question was if let's say for discussion sake that John & Jessica's* position was affected because of a last-minute change of legs, and they somehow found out, could they sue CBS?

*I'm just using a random team here.

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It's my understanding from what I've read and heard over the years that the contracts contestants sign would preclude such a claim, because a waiver of those types of claims are part of the contract. It's like a typical game show where a category or task of the show is changed for technical reasons at the last minute. This is where the lawsuit over the first season of Survivor comes in and Burnett did not lose that lawsuit which claimed he interfered with the vote at tribal council that voted the contestant off the show. (There's also the example of the US version of Big Brother where indirect producer interference of sorts is legendary, but that show is not even considered a game show for regulatory purposes.)

Rachel Berry:
What happens if a team says ( before the show airs ) that they win, their final place or something important?

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