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TAR 18: Ep 2 "I Never Looked So Foolish in My Whole Entire Life" (Outback)

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DrRox:

--- Quote from: The Prophet on February 18, 2011, 04:26:49 PM ---
Define the end of the first leg...the TBC point or the Broken Hill mat.

--- End quote ---


Actually, however I define the end of a leg is irrelevant. What is revelant is just how World Race Productions defines a leg. Absent any written rule/definition from the TAR Big Book of Rules that teams receive, all we can do is look at what Phil has said and 17 seasons of empirical data.

You will really have to come up with your own definiton of a leg after looking at that data. You can write down the factors that "always" happen at the end of a leg and the factors that "always" happen at the start of a leg. Obviously, the start of leg 1 of a season and the finish line of a season are exceptions. But those two exceptions do not affect our analysis.

In Season 1 in Central Park, Phil really did explain it pretty well. He did not come right out and say, but he talked about elmination points and the money they are given and "when" they would get more money. Personally, I am a follower of the_schnauzers and his concept of the "Uberleg" when there is a TBC invovled.

The start of TAR18 is obviously complicated. I personally think the teams will hit the mat 3 times before the (Uber)Leg 1 is over. Once at the windmills to pass out the Automatic U Turn, once in Manley and end of leg mat and elmination at Broken Hill. Again, that is just my speculation. If WRP doesn't change from what they said at the start of TAR 17, then the team that arrives 1st in Broken Hill will receive the Express Pass, by my analysis. Now it is just time to sit back and see just what happens and enjoy the start.

We will have to see what Phil says tonight about when the team with the Automatic U Turn will have to use it.

georgiapeach:
I think the first team to the Manly mat wins the Express Pass.....

This will be fun to see!! :hearts:

connayyy:
From ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=12931037


--- Quote from: ABC News ---[...]In the premiere, Keoghan informs the players that the last team to arrive on the mat will automatically face a U-turn, forcing the duo to perform both Detour challenges, while first-place finishers will receive the Express Pass, allowing a team to skip one task during the race.[...]
--- End quote ---

The article mentions the auto U-Turn and the Express Pass together, which seems to hint that they were given out at the same point? From that I would infer that the first person at the Manly mat received the Express Pass and the last person was hit with the Automatic U-Turn.

Of course, based on what we know about Amanda & Kris's elimination, it's more likely that the auto U-Turn happened after the paper airplanes task.

But Jet & Cord ARE very good at playing catch-up (going from last place to first place despite a Speed Bump in S16) so if I had to guess which team survived a U-Turn and came in 3rd, I would place my bet on them. Still that's probably wishful thinking since I'd hate to see Amanda & Kris go out because of a U-Turn again.

DrRox:
If there is a mat at the windmills, then both the Express Pass and Automatic U Turn could be passed out. If that happens, then WRP changed the way the Express Pass was won for TAR18 than it was won in TAR17.......no problem with that either.....but till it happens we just dont know.....but it does make prefect sense. It should really movtivate teams to look for that clue.

theschnauzers:
The presence or absence pf a mid=po=int mat is not determinative of the presence of an uber-leg. TAR 6 didn't have one, TAR 9 didn't have one, TAR 10 had a mid-point mat that wasn't an uber-leg.  So that factor, and Phil's presence, isn't determinative.

Until recent seasons, it was possible to use the cash distribution point at the beginning of a leg to help identify uber-legs. However, IIRC, there have been a couple of instances where teams did receive additional money at those mid-points.

The more determinative factor seems to be the presence of multiple detours and roadblocks. Yes, we had the one leg with two roadblocks and no detours in Beijing, but if we focus on the total number of such tasks, then it becomes less of a hiccup.  But then, we've had both roadblocks and detours edited in such a way that they were presented on-air as if they were general "active" route marker tasks, so we can't always count on those.

But in general, the uber-leg has usually involved two detours and two roadblocks, with a midpoint where either Phil or the clue, without Phil being present, instructs the teams to continue racing. Whether the Manly midpoint introduces something different we'll have to see tonight.  Also, if Phil uses "the mat" and not "pit stop" that may be a clue that the uber-leg mid-point is being used to determine who gets the Express Pass and the automatic U-Turn. We do have to stop thinking in terms of "the mat" meaning "arriving at the Pit Stop." We've known since TAR 7 that the two no longer always mean the same thing,

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