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TAR 17 EP 12 (FINALE) "Hi. I'm sorry. I'm in a Race."
ovalorange:
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--- Quote from: ovalorange on December 13, 2010, 11:38:35 PM ---The finale was pretty boring for me. Tbh, I don't think the tasks were awfully challenging for the teams and they didn't allow the teams to overtake and become really competitive with one another.
The bungee swing was entertaining but it really just put more time between each of the teams - something I definitely don't want to see in a finale. I want to see the teams pushing themselves to beat the other team, to be seen racing neck and neck with one another. The only time that happened was in the cabs to the port. The roadblock was boring and lame, the only somewhat exciting aspect of it was when Nat forgot to put the water in the buds - and yet they still managed to leave in first with plenty of time to find a good cab driver. And I agree with Slayton, why was it done in a car park? :cmas18 The memory challenge was okay, but I think it would have been more exciting had we been able to look at the board and try and figure some out, instead of just being shown the teams choosing the right ones or making a mistake. It was better than last seasons, but really didn't challenge either Nat and Kat or Brook and Claire. It was nothing compared to TAR12, TAR13 or TAR14's memory tasks.
What did make it exciting were the teams. They really pushed themselves and their partner to the finish line. And we got a happy ending this time around, it was a lot more joyful than our ugly Brandy/Caite session last season. :mas25
I think this finale failed to allow the trailing teams to catch up and move ahead of Nat and Kat. Once the doctors gained the small lead at the port it allowed them to just take off - and unless they would have make a big mistake, there was no way they were going to lose.
But in saying that:
Congratulations to Nat and Kat for winning the race :cmas9 :cmas23 :cmas16
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I think WE are part of the reason for such out-of-the-way / "dull" places. Less opportunity for crumbs of clues to fall our way. Also, with all the helicopters that were used, production was probably limited to where they could film safely.
That said, the team bungee drop was not just a way to put time between the racers. Each team apparently had one team member that was not comfortable with that task. Until they started showing the mid-week pre-final promos, I wasn't sure that Nat was even going to be able to finish the race. Jill looked mightly nervous also. AND Brook certainly wasn't her bubbly self!! This was a TEST of truly how much you wanted the million dollars and the support of your partner when you wavered.
As someone else mentioned, being able to pick a good taxi was also probably a portion of the race. After a multitude of taxi rides, you should have learned to query the taxi-driver before getting in. J/T just got into the first taxi available. B/C had less taxi choice, but had the clarity to ask to go to a hotel. It was clear that even if you were book smart and could answer the first question; or trivia / movie smart and could answer the last question; that the middle question was going to REQUIRE you to get internet / tourist info / other assistance to find the proper answer.
I think the memory challenge was an interesting test. You could record all the information that you wanted about your travels and STILL fail the memory challenge.
Yes, the lead N/K had after the jump would have allowed them to win unless they made a huge mistake. But again, there was no expectation Nat would have actually done the bungee jump or that they could have done so well at the memory task as designed.
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You have some fair points there. :cmas16 I just would have prefered the teams being close or even neck and neck with each other until the finish line. If that would have occurred, I think I would have liked the finale a lot more. Oh well, you can't have everything you wish for. :cmaslol
Dånooky:
I think this finale lacked a challenge on skill. The only task that depended heavily on the racers was the memory challenge (bungee jumping was a passive task and RB was just following directions). I would have liked to see tasks such as the S15 "grab the flower" or S16 "move through cyberspace" which required lots of skill and teamwork.
Rogue:
--- Quote from: apskip on December 14, 2010, 03:17:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rogue on December 13, 2010, 05:17:10 PM ---I think people are taking this book issue too far. I have never had to read about Don Quixote in elementary school, H.S., or college. I have heard of Don Quixote before but that question would have totally failed me as well. And the fact of the matter is that most of the people who are saying they knew the answer, that is only because they were forced to read the book at sometime in their lives. If you're never assigned to read the book for a class or if no one says you gotta read this book then chances are, unless you love to read, you're never going to pick it up.
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You are leaving out the many people who have heard the music to "Man of La Mancha" in either the musical or the movie version. I bet that far exceeds the number of people who have read Cervantes. I haven't read Cervantes and bet few have, but I saw both the musical and movie.
After I read the rogue comment above I made this comment. I subsequently discovered that theSchnauzers had about the same thought in a posting before this one.
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I've never heard of "Man of La Mancha" either. The movie came out in 72 and I probably wasn't even thought of at that time. Since Nat and I are relatively close in age, this might be a movie she missed as well. I doubt Kat would have seen it also. So that leaves the play. I've never been to New York and the only plays I've ever seen have been school productions (Don Quixote was not one of them). I can appreciate the arts but my education, from elementary school through college, has not really had a focus on the arts. I will say I've heard The Impossible Dream before but I never knew where the song came from. This could be the same for both Nat and Kat.
Slowhatch:
--- Quote from: FLFan ---B/C had less taxi choice, but had the clarity to ask to go to a hotel
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There were at least 7 taxis lined up, so maybe the producers did want to see some cab-juggling. And B/C got a fair shake, all things considered: the driver to them to the Courtyard Marriott (photo source), the closest big hotel to the Rose Bowl. And Coldwater Canyon, while not the shortest route (how did he know? GPS? Experience? It's not an intuitive choice), did provide less traffic than Sunset Blvd.
Belle Book:
--- Quote from: Rogue on December 14, 2010, 09:55:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on December 14, 2010, 03:17:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rogue on December 13, 2010, 05:17:10 PM ---I think people are taking this book issue too far. I have never had to read about Don Quixote in elementary school, H.S., or college. I have heard of Don Quixote before but that question would have totally failed me as well. And the fact of the matter is that most of the people who are saying they knew the answer, that is only because they were forced to read the book at sometime in their lives. If you're never assigned to read the book for a class or if no one says you gotta read this book then chances are, unless you love to read, you're never going to pick it up.
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You are leaving out the many people who have heard the music to "Man of La Mancha" in either the musical or the movie version. I bet that far exceeds the number of people who have read Cervantes. I haven't read Cervantes and bet few have, but I saw both the musical and movie.
After I read the rogue comment above I made this comment. I subsequently discovered that theSchnauzers had about the same thought in a posting before this one.
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I've never heard of "Man of La Mancha" either. The movie came out in 72 and I probably wasn't even thought of at that time. Since Nat and I are relatively close in age, this might be a movie she missed as well. I doubt Kat would have seen it also. So that leaves the play. I've never been to New York and the only plays I've ever seen have been school productions (Don Quixote was not one of them). I can appreciate the arts but my education, from elementary school through college, has not really had a focus on the arts. I will say I've heard The Impossible Dream before but I never knew where the song came from. This could be the same for both Nat and Kat.
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And of course, Nat & Kat went to medical school. This means that when they went to college for the regular four-year education, they probably chose to go into medicine and may have been Pre-Med majors. I majored in English and minored in Spanish, so I would've probably read Don Quixote. I doubt Nat & Kat had any classes in high school or college that would've exposed them to it. And it's very possible that they were too focused on medical studies to miss Man of La Mancha, and I'm not sure they were interested in musicals or plays anyway. I've seen several Broadway shows, including Man of La Mancha, so maybe I just had a different educational background. I'm also sure they'd know stuff about medicine that I wouldn't. :cmas22
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