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Alenaveda:

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--- Quote from: Alenaveda on May 20, 2012, 10:48:55 AM ---Just as a fact:  about the Caribbean and Central America, TAR never had a first leg on that area (only TARLA 2 had the starting line at Guatemala's Tikal National Park).  The closest one was Mexico in TAR3.

(BTW, you keep surprising me with your analysis, and I think you're right about it)



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Alaneveda,

I was shocked to learn in an unpublished separate analysis of Central America destinations only that Mexico only qualified under my sets of assumptions with Monterey with 3 flights to there from LAX at 5pm and one each at 9pm  and 10pm. Mexico City had only one nonstop flight and thus did not qualify. The other destinations that do not qualify based on my criteria are Guadalajara, Guajanato and Leon.

I am not clear what you were saying about AR3, but the first destination there was definitely Mexico City although it originated in Miami and not LAX.

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Geographically speaking (Should be the differences on educationals programs.  For us, Canada, USA and Mexico always were part of North America: everything between Mexico and Colombia's border with Panama were Central America; and from Colombia to the Strait of Magellan were South America).

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There is no question about the definition of North America, whether from decades ago or today. It is Canada, U.S., Mexico AND Central America.
However, I have discovered with some geographic research to double-check the current view of what constitutes Central America that Mexico is not included in the modern definition even though it was when I learned geography several decades ago. So I stand corrected (except for some who view the southeastern tip of Mexico as part of Central America). Thus AR3 did not go first to Central America. Also, Monterey is not in Central America so there are no places in Central America where you can fly nonstop from LAX in the designated time frame.

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Once again, and for make it clear to you:  For us who lives in the other half of the continent, Canada, USA and Mexico always were part of North America: everything between Mexico and Colombia's border with Panama were Central America; and from Colombia to the Strait of Magellan were South America, and that's the way we used to divide the whole continent.  When I'm talking about "differences on educationals programs" I'm referring to this, ¿understood?.  So, from our point of view, the closest first leg to Central America - without counting TARLA 2 in Guatemala - was TAR3 in Mexico.  ¿Is it clear enough for you?
On the same way, if TAR24 (as an example) would have its first leg in any city of Colombia or Venezuela, then I would say that the closest first legs to Central America has been TAR3 (Mexico) and TAR24 (Colombia/Venezuela).
And to let it even clearer:  until TAR20, Argentina never had a first leg.  The closest first legs were TAR2-TAR9-TAR13 (Brasil), TAR5 (Uruguay) and TAR16 (Chile). :tup:

georgiapeach:
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Alenaveda:

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--- Quote from: paridy on April 22, 2012, 09:50:17 PM ---quick question, on Mark's last try they had a dancer doing the steps right near the camera guy, did they only do it that one time or had they done it throughout?

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I think it was only for Mark's last attempt. For all the other teams, the blue podium where the dance instructor was showing his steps were occupied by the instrument players.

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--- Quote from: Prophet on April 24, 2012, 09:09:10 PM ---You're right AR. It looks like they made this concession for them. Maybe they wanted to avoid someone taking a four hour penalty in a NEL leg.

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To end this discussion, I've been making the spanish subs sync of this chapter, and I found something that put things clear about this point: in Mark's third attempt to perform the dance routine, at 26.36 minutes of the episode, we can see the choreographer doing the routine in front of the stage, guiding Mark.  And you can also see the other coreographers close to the stage in every attempt that both Rachels, Vanessa and J.J. made to fulfill the RB, but the editing doesn't allow to watch if they're doing the same.

(EDIT: And also at the 7th attempt too. Down there you have the caps from every attempt)





RaceUntilWeDie:
I didn't know where to post this, but I'll put it here:

Did you notice that Phil changed his hosting style for when he reveals the news to the last team that the leg is a NEL?

Example: I'm… pleased to tell you however… [ speaking at the last team ]

I've noticed throughout some of TAR19 and 20 that Phil asks questions or somehow gets the last teams to do a speech (i.e. Mark & Bopper) before revealing that it's a NEL.

I don't know, but this just bothers me.

bcp19:

--- Quote from: RaceUntilWeDie on July 29, 2012, 03:07:37 PM ---I didn't know where to post this, but I'll put it here:

Did you notice that Phil changed his hosting style for when he reveals the news to the last team that the leg is a NEL?

Example: I'm… pleased to tell you however… [ speaking at the last team ]

I've noticed throughout some of TAR19 and 20 that Phil asks questions or somehow gets the last teams to do a speech (i.e. Mark & Bopper) before revealing that it's a NEL.

I don't know, but this just bothers me.

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Actually, for several seasons now Phil has had a 'tell' when it came to NEL.

In normal EL's, he more often than not says Something similar to "X and Y, you are the last team to arrive... I'm sorry to tell you that you have been eliminated"

But in NEL's he almost always says "X and Y, I am sorry to tell you that you are the last team to arrive... However(or I'm pleased to tell you) this is a non elimination leg.

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