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TAR 17 Speculation
DrRox:
--- Quote from: apskip on October 11, 2010, 10:37:00 AM ---Here are the weekday schedule from Harstad/Narvik Airport (EVE) to Oslo:
Dep. To Flight Airline
06:45 08:30 Oslo SK4079 SAS
06:50 08:30 Oslo DY233 Norwegian Air Shuttle
11:05 12:45 Oslo SK4083/DY2 SAS/Norwegian Air Shuttle
17:15 18:55 Oslo DY229 Norwegian Air shuttle
17:55 19:40 Oslo SK4095 SAS
19:35 21:15 Oslo DY237 Norwegian Air Shuttle
Only the ones to Oslo matter, as they can easily connect to Stockholm and from there to St. Petersburg. Flights from Oslo to St. Petersburg connect through Helsinki, Stockholm, Hamburg or Copenhagen. We are looking for a flight through Stockholm having the right time parameters.
The possibilities are:
OSL ARN SK864 1100 1200
ARN LED SK732 1310 1635
Either SK4079 or DY233 get teams to Oslo in time for the connection on to Stockholm and then St. Petersburg.
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Great research, apskip, but there is a fly in the ointment. The confirmed flight for ARN to LED is SK 732 1000 to 1330. The witness confirmed all the teams on that flight in this communication with Peach.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.msg526813.html#msg526813 Post #418
So if we work backwards from ARN to Oslo, for connecting flights, we get two possible flights. If we give 1 hour of connection time, then they must arrive in Oslo by 0900 on June 5, 2110, a Saturday. These are the two posibilities…
SK 848 0742 to 0833 or
DY 810 0756 to 0845
So looking for flights from EVE to OSL on Sat June 5,2110, there are only 3 flights on a reduced service Saturday. One each in the morning, afternoon and evening. The morning flight is
DY 233 0648 to 0817
As you can see, it does not arrive in Oslo (OSL) in time to make the connection to Stockholm (ARN). They could have left on the evening of June 4, 2110 and slept in the Oslo airport, but I think that is unlikely.
At this time, I think that the teams drove the cars they picked up at Kiruna Airport (KRN) to the Narvik area. That is my assumption for this speculation. If they did drive, then they could be released in time to drive back to Kiruna Airport to make the following flights to St Petersburg.
KRN ARN DY 3766 0730 to 0855
ARN LED SK 732 1000 to 1330
One other small matter. The airport at Narvik, Harstad-Narvik (EVE) is 80 km from Narvik. It is on the opposite side of the fjord and west of Narvik. It is a very convoluted drive. I think they could have had the mat and pit stop out there close to the airport, and made them drive out there to check in for Leg 5. But the fact that you can't make the ARN/LED flight by flying out of EVE doesn’t make much sense. I tried to check the railroad timetables to see if traveling between Kiruna and Narvik was viable, but I have been unable to find June timetables.
apskip:
Here are timetables in effect August 22 to December 11 for trains from Kiruna to Narvik:
304 km Kiruna C 7.09 9.31 10.31 14.04(bus)
473 km Narvik 10.01 12.40 13.25 16.51(bus)
I could find nothing for earlier than August, but it is reasonable to assume schedules would be comparable or more frequent.
The reverse direction train schedules for the same date range from Narvik to KIruna are:
0 km Narvik 10.26 14.50
169 km Kiruna C 13.27 17.26
473 km Lulea in 17.24 21.04
473 km Lulea out 19.57
Uppsala in 8.31
Uppsala out 8.53
Arlanda Airport 9.01
This indicates it takes 22.5 hours to do this route by train.
DrRox:
That long train ride from Narvik to Stockholm, from apskip, sure leads to some interesting spec about the timeline above the arctic circle. If Leg 6 really starts on June 4 with that 22 hour train ride from Narvik to Stockholm, then it would really give Phil almost 2 days before meeting the teams at the mat in St Petersburg on the evening of June 5th. One to do his standups and the other to catch up on the internet and other things that he has mentioned in tweets and facebook posts.
If teams finish Leg 4 before midnight on June 1 near the Norwegian border, from the ski resort identification. Leg 5 could be finished by midnight June 2 or early morning June 3 and Phil could fly out. Teams could have some sort of an extended pit stop in the Narvik area. Then teams could be released to take the train on June 4 to start leg 6, arriving in Arlanda Airport the morning of June 5 when they were spotted.
As Neobie has mentioned, there is no nighttime up there at that time of year. The Land of the Midnight Sun. Its possible they could have some planned HoO tasks to stretch out the legs also to fit into my timeline, with thanks to apskip for the train schedules.
It also provides a good escape route for the 3rd and 4th teams going to the ES. They could fly from Narvik to Oslo to Cancun and not have to reverse course.
furybaby:
I really hope Team Jumba doesn't get eliminated tht soon :'(
furybaby:
Lists are so much more simple than a timeline though :hearts:
you can actually guess/piece the infos and make a list :jam:
that way it give me more faith bout other teams heh :-[
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