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Season 16 = Dumbest Cast Ever...?

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Hooky:

--- Quote from: DeafRacer on April 14, 2010, 05:16:43 PM ---It's just a turn off that people like Brent & Caite and Michael & Louie aren't being strategic on what's best for themselves in long run.

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Yes indeed. And if their poor choices end up bringing Karma back to knock them out of the race, it will all be worth it, for me at least.

I remember being very upset that Amanda & Kris were U-turned out of the race, and I had a grudge against your team for the rest of the season, but in hindsight it really wasn't rational of me. Part of the reason was that I didn' have all the information (so thanks for posting here and clarifying). You did what was best for you for strategy's sake. I would have done something similar, too. Personal feelings shouldn't be such a factor in who you decide to U-turn (which is why you guys U-turned Amanda & Kris despite being friends with them, and why it was wrong for Louie & Michael and Brent & Caite to use their U-turn opportunities in the way that they did). And the U-turn shouldn't be taken so personally, but, being infallible and human, we have a natural tendency to take things like that as personal attacks, when, in reality, they are compliments to how strong the U-turned team really is. But it just irritates me that this time it was a "moral" decision determined by Louie & Michael and Brent & Caite, who, in our very limited observation, don't appear to be too humble themselves. In reality, nobody has a right to make such judgments, but that's life. Maybe the U-turn should just be done away with.

I do love this season, but I've decided that in the future I will not love a season based on what occurs with the teams. To put it simply, the only fair way to judge the race and its quality is in those factors that the creators actually had control over. This season ranks as one of the best when using those criteria, IMO. I love this race course, and the cast overall is actually pretty strong. How far individual teams go or what they decide to do is beyond the producers control. And that is why the race is so interesting and entertaining.

Hooky:
Oh, and I also have to say what I think is the most important message of all: Let's all CALM DOWN. Breathe. :hosed

This is not the end of the Race or the end of the world. Every season is different, and if this one isn't ideal for one or more of us, there's always the next. I know we take this very seriously but I think we're putting too much effort into arguing over things that really aren't all that important. What happened happened, and arguing over it won't change it.

Also, I think we should try harder from this point onward to enjoy the race for what makes it great, rather than tear it down for what is making it flawed. I think we've become overly critical and it's bringing a lot of negative energy to the race forum (no, I'm not trying to preach like Michael - just making a suggestion). :lol3:

(I know what you're all thinking: "I can't believe I just heard that from Hooky, the one who started this over-critical mess.") :lol3:

Caelestor:
Luke, sorry I didn't make my point clear. I agree with you that U-turning Amanda and Kris was a very good and strategic move on your part.
I was just disagreeing with your statement that Carol/Brandy and Joe/Heidi were strong racers and deserved to be in the final three. Yes, they were strong relative to other teams, much like Amanda/Kris were. But that doesn't mean they "deserve" to be in the final three. By your logic, Amanda/Kris would also have deserved to have completed in your (TAR 14) finale, and I really don't think you would have wanted that. There's only one way to earn your spot in the Final 3: don't come last on an elimination leg.

In other news, it's good to see someone (Hooky) agree with me for once.

thespicdatum:

--- Quote from: Dånooky ✟ on April 13, 2010, 12:37:30 AM ---I still don't get why people are so bent on the Speedbump having to be a task with a hellish difficulty ???
Isn't it enough having to deviate from the normal course and waste time (mostly transportation) on a pointless task? Check the Speedbumps:

* Kynt & Vyxsin: Yoga
* TK & Rachel: run through a field with blazing fireworks
* Ken & Tina: Serve water
* Dan & Andrew: Learn a choreography
* Christie & Jodi: elephant make-up
* Mark & Michael: wash hair
* Maria & Tiffany: serve soup to a guard
* Gary & Matt: Sauna
* Brian & Ericka: Absynth Shot
* Jeff & Jordan: Make a wall out of sticks
* Jet & Cord: serve tea to a guru

All these tasks are obviously designed just to waste time. IMO, wanting to add another task that is as difficult as a Detour or Roadblock to a team that is already dead-last is just plain sadistic.

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I guess that's why it's called a speedbump. it's supposed to slow you down further in the race as a penalty for being last in the previous leg and for being spared elimination.

Frankly, I think the tasks are so easy and so fast to do, it's very easy to get back in the race.

mrmando:
Thanks for the welcome.

My definition of a bad U-Turn is when you U-Turn a team that's actually weaker than you are. Do that and you've just made things tougher on yourself in the long run. That wasn't in the cards for Brent/Caite. No matter who they chose to U-Turn, they'd be improving their chances by eliminating a stronger competitor.

Another example of a bad U-Turn would be U-Turning a team that's so strong they actually survive it. This doesn't help you in the long run, and probably hurts you. If a team's right behind me and I'm not confident that the U-Turn will knock them out, I'll choose another team.

Both teams that used the U-Turn succeeded in knocking out another team, and both of them are still racing, so far be it from me to argue with their choices, even if I might have made a different choice.

Let's not forget that Brent/Caite ran by far their best leg in Episode 9, and I doubt they're going to repeat that performance. As to whether Carol/Brandy were the smartest remaining team, I suppose perhaps they were, but (a) that depends on what kind of smarts you're talking about; and (b) it isn't really saying much. "Smart" means more than being the only team that can pronounce "Seychelles."

Perhaps if I were a racer I couldn't afford to consider my personal feelings about the other racers, but as a viewer I certainly can. If I had to give a million dollars to one of these teams, I wouldn't give it to a narcissistic whiner like Brandy, who seems to be fairly well/off successful at any rate and probably needs the money less than anyone else does. I wouldn't give it to the bricks-for-brains models, who might misplace it before they got to the bank. (Do you realize that if this were baseball, they'd be guilty of running straight from second base to home plate ... twice?) I wouldn't give it to the Machiavellian cops, who have substituted puppet-mastery for actual strategy. And I wouldn't give it to the guys who phoned in their first seven legs. So who's left? Two hardworking, decent, thoroughly likable guys in a demanding, dangerous, low-paying profession who've managed to remain under the other racers' radar.

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