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TAR16 - EP 11 "They Don’t Even Understand Their Own Language" (Shanghai 2)
georgiapeach:
I am still at work and can't see the vid or screencap from here. Will love doing it IF I get home in time, which is NOT looking good. :meow:
Boingo:
--- Quote from: chill_sd on May 02, 2010, 01:24:49 PM ---Yes, that appears to be the "Chops" side of the detour.
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:lol: While Shanghai has lots of shopping venues, the stamps/chops most likely take place at the famous Nanjing Road (Nanjing Lu) East location. :snicker:
mswood:
--- Quote from: slayton on May 01, 2010, 05:54:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: mswood on April 30, 2010, 09:10:31 PM ---Slayton
I can't speak for luke,but I don't think anyone is going to argue that it is ugly behavior. My point is that, one instance doesn't reflect how a person normally behaves. We have had racers who yell at locals (or demean them all the time. That personally bothers me a lot more, then what so far as been a single instance.
After going through every season with a fine tooth comb, I don't think there has been a racer (to make it near the end) who hasn't at one point of another lost their temper. Be it with a local, a service personell, with fellow racers, or with their team mate.
I mean look at Danny & Oswald two racers who are considered extremely friendly to locals, they have insulted cab drivers, told them they can't speak their own language and threatened to kill one. All in one leg. Was it ****ty behavior, of course it was. But was that instance something that really reflected how they normally treat others?
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I'm not going to say that Dan & Jordan are part of the pantheon of "Ugly American" racers until I see the whole episode, but Dan, in episode 6 in France, was also the one who said, "People really do not speak good English here."
I will re-watch that Macau episode from TAR11 and pay close attention to Oswald & Danny. I don't remember them being that bad in that episode, but they'll definitely take a tumble as my all-time favorite team if it's as bad as you say it is.
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Making a statement that people (the ones they have encountered) don't speak good english here isn't offense, or ugly behavior. Its just a statement. Making a statement expecting people to speak your language is. Or complaining about how people don't speak or understand your english is ugly. But just pointing out that people's english isn't good, isn't.
I mean when I have had people from other countries with me in the US and they have stated that my command of their language isn't that great. It's just a statement. They didn't mean it as I should speak their language better.
And that is the heart of that type of issue.
If you think Dan and Jordan's intent in that scene was that people should speak better english then its ugly behavior (and we have had many, many racers over the years make comments about people needing to speak English). But if its dan and Jordan just talking about someone's ability without them having the expectation of them speaking perfect english, then there is nothing wrong with it.
mswood:
--- Quote from: Paron on May 01, 2010, 09:30:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: spolarium on May 01, 2010, 01:06:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on May 01, 2010, 12:52:20 AM ---Yes. :'(
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sad .. i like it when phil says "louie dont make me eliminate you" ..
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You're sad?! They've been douches all race long, and you're SAD they're leaving?!
Sheesh. Am I EVER glad I don't hang around here regularly.
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Well it all depends people watch the show for many varied reasons. And I am not a big fan of Louie & Mike. But I do like that they work well together, that they so far have always treated each other with respect. And while they have manipulated others, they are allowed. We haven't seen them in general being rude to locals or service personnel. Their worst behavior is being cocky in about 4 episodes, and using Brent & Caite and Carol & Brandy's feud to engineer their being seen as a target instead of themselves (which is actually fairly smart). Besides that we haven't seen any other bad behavior in their day to day relations to other racers. Even with Joe & Heidi they were civil.
Boingo:
:lol3: you don't have to go all the way to Shanghai to get your seal/name chop.... :lol: there's a shop in Shanghai with an eBay listing... :colors :neener:
Shanghai Ebay chops link
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