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TAR16 - EP 9: "Dumb did us in" (Singapore)
Jobby:
I'm okay with them selling ice cream in Singapore.. but that's just a.... small culture in Singapore..
But shall not complain.. very happy they're in SINGAPORE!!!! :lol:
I can't wait for the promos to come out and help with the spoilers.. that's about as much i can help.. lol
Evan_Weinstein:
me too, count me in, i wanna help
--- Quote from: Joab on March 28, 2010, 05:14:13 AM ---I'm okay with them selling ice cream in Singapore.. but that's just a.... small culture in Singapore..
But shall not complain.. very happy they're in SINGAPORE!!!! :lol:
I can't wait for the promos to come out and help with the spoilers.. that's about as much i can help.. lol
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apskip:
Neobie,
I must apologize. After years of relative congruency between your transportation work and mine, this is the 3rd instance of huge major differences in the past 24 hours. The timetable I have cited has the heading Bangkok ► Penang ► Kuala Lumpur ► Singapore and I used the Penang (actually Butterworth since State Railways of Thailand trains do not actually cross to the bridge into Penang center. I have discovered that my interpretation of the schedules in that was not correct.
The website which was the source for my timetables is http://www.seat61.com/Thailand.htm#Singapore
I concur that your 0700 to 2130 14.5 hour trip from Butterworth to Singapore is valid for Malaysian Railways.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:55:17 PM by apskip »
chill_sd:
Apskip, I'm looking at the time table you reference (http://www.seat61.com/Thailand.htm#Singapore) and I still don't see any way to get from Butterworth to Singapore in less than 13h45m.
PS, here's the info from your link:
Daily Train 9 leaves Butterworth at 23:30 this train arrives KL at 06:40, then train 5 leaves KL at 08:25 (1 hr 45 min layover) and arrives Singapore at 15:00. Total time = 15 hr 30 min.
Daily Train 1 leaves Butterworth at 07:45 and arrives Singapore 21:30. Total time = 13 hr 45 min (no layover in KL).
Saturdays and Sundays, Train 3 leaves Butterworth 10:00 and arrives KL 17:30 then Train 11 (daily) leaves KL at 22:30 (a 5 hr layover!) and arrives Singapore 08:20. Total time = 22 hr 20 min.
Neobie:
--- Quote from: apskip on March 30, 2010, 01:41:57 PM ---After years of relative congruency between your transportation work and mine, this is the 3rd instance of huge major differences in the past 24 hours? What is going on? The timetable I have cited has the heading Bangkok ► Penang ► Kuala Lumpur ► Singapore and I used the Penang (actually Butterworth since State Railways of thailand trains do not actually cross to the bridge into Penang center. My number are correct per that timetable. If you don't like an official State Railways of Thailand timetable, feel free to disregard it.
I do not know who is right, but I am using a documented source for my timetables (I don't make these up out of thin air):
http://www.seat61.com/Thailand.htm#Singapore
Please look it up yourself. It shows that State Railways of Thailand has the timetables I displayed. I concur that your 0700 to 2130 14.5 hour trip from Butterworth to Singapore is valid for Malaysian Railways.
My Asia rail travel experience of 3 weeks in India, 11 days in China and 10 days in Taiwan has taught me that there are average trains which go under 40 mph and there are fast trains which do 80 miles per hour. I suspect that your Malaysian Railways timetables are valid, but who sensitive to time constraints would want to go on that train? I sure wouldn't for an Amazing Race although I would consider it for a major price differential.
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Apskip, you are reading the right timetable (with minor variations from the official Malaysian Railways schedule), but you are looking at the wrong row. The times that you are quoting (trains leaving at 8.25am, 2.00pm and 10.30pm) are for trains leaving from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore, which is why the times you get are drastically shorter. There is no faster train than the direct.
The official Malaysian Railways timetable is here, if you would like to confirm the timings.
I recognize your 5 weeks of travel experience in China, Taiwan and India, but please understand that I live in Singapore and have made the trip to and from Penang three times in the past two years, by train, bus and plane.
Perhaps why we're disagreeing is because one of us is starting to pay attention to what the other one is saying! :waves:
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