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--- Quote from: mswood on March 12, 2010, 04:21:51 PM ---Because they are crazy Luke.  I honestly think they might have changed an non elimination point in All Stars, but its just a gut reaction.  But that certainly wasn't because who it was racing, but how far another team was behind and how the non elimination occurred later.

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theschnauzers, do you believe that the pit stop for the East Africa leg of AR11 (All-Stars) was supposed to be in Stone Town, Zanzibar Island? I don't, as a lot of evidence points to World Race Productions manipulation that leg to try to get the race into a less-spread-out configuration. That included moving the pit stop from Arusha, Tanzania, where it was originally supposed to be to
Stone Town. There is no question that they arbitrarily changed the dhow sailing times from Dar Es Salaam to Zanzibar Island to claim much more storm-related delays than were necessary.

mswood:
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What I don't understand is why they gave a reason, instead just an Hours of Operation.  It would have been easy cost literally very little, and been something that the race has often used to bunch teams together after a large point of separation. 

Cocoa:
If TAR Producers and TWRP do have fave (and may have made an instant NEL), then why are Charla and Mirna AND the Gaghan Family eliminated? Clearly, NEL legs are planned WAAAAYYY before the race starts, but with a few exceptions like in TAR11. However, now that NEL penalties are made into Speed Bumps instead of the giving off money or the 30-minute penalty, the producers cannot easily make a leg an NEL one based on their discretion because they must plan of a speed bump next leg.

But if the producers have planned alternate speed bumps in every leg....   :(

theschnauzers:

--- Quote ---theschnauzers, do you believe that the pit stop for the East Africa leg of AR11 (All-Stars) was supposed to be in Stone Town, Zanzibar Island?
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IIRC, Phil said in a TV Guide interview that they got word fairly late in the leg that for safety reasons teams weren't going to make the originally planned pit stop without a much longer delay, and they moved it at the last minute. Moving the pit stop is a different issue than whether a leg being changed to NEL or vice versa. Regarding the boat to Zanzibar Island, I've always felt that the local company being used for the boat rides weren't ready that early, and I remember checking Weather Underground and finding that there was a tropical cyclone offshore about that time, and that the ocean conditions were quite choppy and weren't necessarily favorable for a boat ride then either. As it was, several of the teams had sea-sickness problems the next day or so when teams did head to Zanzibar Island. The East Africa legs of TAR 11 were a scheduling mess between the Hajj period travel and the offshore conditions, but other 24 hour leads have been lost in the past (Frank and Margarita from the Netherlands to India being the best example, Colin and Christie in Egypt being another.)

mswood:
I never did the research on the offshore weather, but they had a fairly recent death (on those type of vessels not long before the race).  And as someone who has worked on a fishing boat in off the coast of Alaska, I can tell you the times the sky looked clear from Harbor and later that day finding out a boat had gone down.

I think one the huge time difference in that leg due to the complete collapse of the flight plan (for the show, I think the largest the show's ever had) just really makes that instance seem highly suspect.  While I love that teams had to scramble for flights (and not be spoon feed them) this and the air problems of the next episode really hurt that season as a whole.

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