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After 16 seasons, will an all-female team finally win the race?
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--- Quote from: DavidJunior on April 07, 2010, 11:18:59 AM ---i think we are missing the original team who could've taken home the prize:
Nancy and Emily
had they just completed the detour, they would've survived the leg. the next leg they could've used the fast forward and royally screwed over Kevin and Drew. Then, three teams would be racing in the finale, and who knows what might have happened?
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DavidJr.:
I think your information is a bit off on what happened in Thailand in AR1 arriving at and leaving from Krabi. Kevin and Drew checked into Krabi at 0303 and Joe/Bill at 0631. Nancy/Emily before their penalty got there somewhere in between, so assume that they were in the exact middle or arrived at 447am and Kevin/Drew would have gotten a lead of about 104 minutes on them on the way to "The King". There was a DETOUR and they could not have finished "The King" no matter whether they chose Walk or Climb. Kevin/Drew made it to Sea, Land and Trek that evening, but the operating hours for "the King" would have prevented Nancy/Emily from getting off Raile Beach and starting the DETOUR. They would have to do the DETOUR while Kevin/Drew complete Sea, Land, Trek and reach the pit stop on the mainland near Chicken Island. They would finish the same 2 hours roughly ahead of Nancy/Emily that Joe/Bill did as the situations Nancy/Emily faced replacing Joe/Bill in your hypothetical example would have put them in about the same places at the same times. Then, after flying on the same flights from Krabi to Beijing they would logically get the same competition somewhere on the way to Tiantan Park. There were no Fast Forwards in all of the legs after the "King" but there was one at its front end. However, it was supposedly unused and unaired, so if it had any value surely Nancy/Emily would have gone for it. However, their start time for it would almost surely be after the next morning. That means the best they could do would have been to erase any deficit against Kevin/Drew getting to Pai Plong Beach but not be able to get any earlier flights to Beijing.
Jobby:
Carol and Brandy fans dreams are dashed today. But seriously, there were indeed many times all-female teams who had the potential to go far get eliminated by a silly mistake. I rarely see all-female teams get saved by NEL, with the exception of:
TAR 5: Kami and Karli
TAR 8: Godlewski
TAR 10: Dustin and Kandice
TAR 14: Christie and Jodi
TAR 15: Maria and Tiffany
That's basically like only 5 out of the MANY NELs there are on the race. :(
Come to think of it, we nearly had all-female teams winning it all in season 5, season 8, season 10, season 11 and season 14.. not to forget that there were other seasons like practically every other season who can potentially win. (with the exception of TAR 9, TAR 12 and TAR 15... which i think the all-female teams in these seasons were beyond hopeless and i really did not pin any hopes for them to win)
Zack.:
--- Quote ---That's basically like only 5 out of the MANY NELs there are on the race.
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Wither Nancy/Emily and Linda/Karen (and if we're being technical, Kisha/Jen)?
DavidJunior:
i interpret being "saved" by an NEL, is continuing on with the race, NOT getting eliminated in the next leg and in the same position.
this would leave:
Linda and Karen (NEL'd in Egypt 1, EL'd in Philippines 2)
Kami and Karli (NEL'd in UAE, EL'd in New Zealand) (i put them, because there was a leg in between, where they didn't come in last)
Godlewski Family (NEL'd in Panama, EL'd in Montana)
and Maria and Tiffany (NEL'd in Japan, practically NEL'd in Cambodia, EL'd in the Netherlands)
so only 4 teams were actually 'saved' by the NEL they landed on. The others still got knocked out the very next leg, thus wasting the NEL.
Hooky:
--- Quote from: DavidJunior on April 12, 2010, 03:24:27 PM ---i interpret being "saved" by an NEL, is continuing on with the race, NOT getting eliminated in the next leg and in the same position.
this would leave:
Linda and Karen (NEL'd in Egypt 1, EL'd in Philippines 2)
Kami and Karli (NEL'd in UAE, EL'd in New Zealand) (i put them, because there was a leg in between, where they didn't come in last)
Godlewski Family (NEL'd in Panama, EL'd in Montana)
and Maria and Tiffany (NEL'd in Japan, practically NEL'd in Cambodia, EL'd in the Netherlands)
so only 4 teams were actually 'saved' by the NEL they landed on. The others still got knocked out the very next leg, thus wasting the NEL.
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--- Quote from: DavidJunior on April 12, 2010, 03:24:27 PM ---i interpret being "saved" by an NEL, is continuing on with the race, NOT getting eliminated in the next leg and in the same position.
this would leave:
Linda and Karen (NEL'd in Egypt 1, EL'd in Philippines 2)
Kami and Karli (NEL'd in UAE, EL'd in New Zealand) (i put them, because there was a leg in between, where they didn't come in last)
Godlewski Family (NEL'd in Panama, EL'd in Montana)
and Maria and Tiffany (NEL'd in Japan, practically NEL'd in Cambodia, EL'd in the Netherlands)
so only 4 teams were actually 'saved' by the NEL they landed on. The others still got knocked out the very next leg, thus wasting the NEL.
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I don't like this interpretation, because all teams that land on the NEL are still saved, even if they only get to race one more leg. What finishing placing a team gets in the race doesn't really matter, the point is that they were not eliminated on that leg. They can still win the race after that or be eliminated on the very next leg. But their race was still saved. They still had the chance to go farther. It's the ability to continue the race that really matters, not the ability to get a higher finishing placement, IMO.
But I also hate seeing the team that was saved by the NEL get eliminated on the next leg anyway, unless it's a team I genuinely don't like.
--- Quote from: Joab on April 12, 2010, 10:21:27 AM ---Come to think of it, we nearly had all-female teams winning it all in season 5, season 8, season 10, season 11 and season 14.. not to forget that there were other seasons like practically every other season who can potentially win. (with the exception of TAR 9, TAR 12 and TAR 15... which i think the all-female teams in these seasons were beyond hopeless and i really did not pin any hopes for them to win)
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I don't totally agree with this. I think Wanda & Desiree had a strong potential, but their bad directions put them out early. They didn't get a chance to show all of their racing abilities. They were quite strong on Leg 1. Lisa & Joni were indeed hopeless, though, and Danielle & Dani were pretty mediocre.
And as for TAR 12, I'd say that both female teams had a decent chance at winning. Marianna & Julia, in their own words, "almost never caught a break." When they did catch a break by leaving the airport first on Leg 3, they quickly lost a building lead to a bunch at the train station. And then came the camels and the story ended. I think they were a potentially strong team, but we'll never know for sure. They were at least decent, however. Shana & Jennifer also had a decent racing ability, just not a strong sense of navigation, and they weren't very good at handling the pressure. Kate & Pat were also hopeless in terms of winning potential.
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