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redwings8831:

--- Quote from: Dån (cdfe88) on December 06, 2009, 09:04:52 PM ---
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--- Quote from: mswood on December 06, 2009, 08:46:08 PM ---The only thing, in general I find missing from the season enders is that (since moving all the tasks to the final destination) they haven't had navigation be included, its all been cabs.

Now of course after season 11 (and the amount of driving teams actually do is nowhere near what the first 11 seasons did.  And on race around the world self navigation ( in my humble  opinion) should be a huge factor.

And its not a factor at all during the finale leg.  Though I am sure its a safety issue, more then anything on this leg.

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It would've been nice to see the transportation between the hotels on foot instead of in a cab.

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That would've been inhumane, I've been to Las Vegas in Summer and if they'd done the whole leg on foot, one of them would most certainly have pulled a Margie.

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I've also been there in the summer (temps in the 110's during the day, around 85 at 11:30 PM) and have done most of that route.

mswood:

--- Quote from: BobbL on December 06, 2009, 08:40:05 PM ---Meghan & Cheyne earned their way to the top. I didn't pick them to win at the start (at least I had the right F4).  They worked together so good as a team.  The other teams each lost time because of problems with self-control and team dynamics.  Sam & Dan with "Shut Up!" and Ericka freaking out when everything doesn't go right.  They each lost a bunch of time to it, not just in this leg but in other legs too.  And it's unfortunate, because they worked well when they weren't being immobilized by the problems.  At the start, I overestimated them and the Trotters, and underestimated Meghan & Cheyne.

Meghan & Cheyne richly deserved this win.  They were the best team leg after leg.  Indeed, they rank as one of the best teams ever in terms of just racing.

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While they are the most consistent and the strongest racers of this season, there are some differences in this season that never hit any other season of the show, and that impacted two full legs that they won.  And in neither of those legs did they actually race the fastest leg. 

As for their ability to communicate and work together, whiel they weren't as vocal as Sam & Dan or Brian and Ericka (Well Ericka), they did have several legs where they absolutely didn't work as a team, hell they had a time where they wouldn't speak to each other.  And for nearly half the race they wouldn't compromise on what to do.  But they never yelled or name called, ect, they were much quieter in their disagreements.

As for comparing them to other seasons there are many, many factors to consider.

For example, when you look at the first 4 seasons teams didn't get as many wins and their placement averages took a hit due to the fact that all several teams each season used a Fast Forward (when from season 5 and later their was a max of two).  Of course with season 1 -5 you also had teams where one person could do all the roadblocks,  That no longer is the case.  Of course, they also used to have to navigate by thousands of miles more then the last 4 seasons.  So teams that didn't navigate well would really perform a lot worse in comparisons to seasons 1 -11.  That for example is something Nick & Starr did poorly on.  They did not navigate well, lucky for them their season featured the least amount of driving of any season in race history (enough so that many teams have done more in single legs then they did in a full race).  This season also didn't feature much driving and its something that what we see of them doing they don't manage well at.  They lose time to other teams in two out of three legs that we see them drive (though again the distances aren't great).  So I don't think they would hold up well in that regard in comparison to the seasons (the majority of them) that feature real amounts of driving.

puddin:
Your awesome mswood <3

Dånooky:
One thing that I really loved this episode was that, at one point all teams were 1st 2nd and 3rd throughout the leg.

On another note, the final challenge curse stroke back.

DrRox:
Fwiw, I liked the final task.........first team to count a million, wins a million. Pretty good incentive. I dont ever remember a 3rd place arrival at the final task (counting chips), resulting in a race win. If there was, I am sure someone will certainly remind me.  If you count finding Wayne Newton as the final task, then this is all moot.

All in all, a dang good season and exciting finale.

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