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TAR16 Media Thread
gator27:
Brought over from another thread
--- Quote from: mswood on April 10, 2010, 06:54:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on April 09, 2010, 02:08:01 PM ---OK, so you are Les Moonves, head of CBS. Here is the ratings information for the season beginning Sept. 2009 you have to consider:
"60 Minutes" - ranked No. 9 in the Nielsen ratings, with an average audience each week of 15.7 million
"The Amazing Race" 15 and 16 - there was a break of about 3 months but for the Sunday nights that a season was active, my memory says the average weekly audience have been between 9 million and 10 million.
Now, would you bump or otherwise take away from a consistent top-rated and profitable show for only the past 42 years to favor a very good show with 8.5 years of moderate ratings? No business executive would (unless he knew that Andy rooney would be retiring and taking the franchise with him).
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While 60 minutes is viewed by more people on average, TAR generates more revenue, since the advent of people meters, total audience hasn't been the measure that sets ad rates (what pays teh bills) that is age demographics (60 minutes has one of the worst of any show on CBS) and household income (60 minutes has one of the highest of CBS).
TAR for most of its run (has People meters took over in 05) has generated more ad revenue then 60 minutes. In fact, until this season no other show on Sunday for CBS has generated more revenue for CBS on Sunday then TAR.
And 60 minutes has been having significant year to year declines among not only its total audience, but severe declines in adults 18-49 (the key age demographic used to set ad rates).
The reason CBS wont (at least for a couple years) change 60 minutes is not due to its audience, but do it being considered an institution.
While 60 minutes is going to end this season in may with 20-30% declines across the board (at thats being generous) TAR will actually be showing year to year increases. And has been one of the most stable performers on CBS.
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--- Quote from: apskip on April 10, 2010, 09:45:57 PM ---I am responding to mswood's argument that 60 Minutes is less valuable to CBS than the Amazing Race is. Well, as the Geico man says (with a little poetic license by me) "do statistics lie of course they can be manipulated)? Do the statistics that are endlessly quoted on other threads of team rankings mean anything? why are the ratings systems so complicated that anyone can pretty much get a very wide range of different conclusions from them (ah, now that's the really important question)." So, here are some statistics that I would use if I were the head of CBS:
"60 Minutes" Enjoying Ratings Surge Off Newsmaker Interviews
DAVID BAUDER | March 23, 2009 06:52 AM EST | AP
NEW YORK —
...This [60 Minutes] season, the program is averaging 15 million viewers an episode on Sunday nights, according to Nielsen Media Research.
Top 20 Shows For Average Viewership, 2008-9 Broadcast Prime-Time Season
Rank Programs Network STD Viewers Live+SD (000) HH Rating
1 AMERICAN IDOL-WEDNESDAY FOX 25,527 8.8
2 AMERICAN IDOL-TUESDAY FOX 24,741 8.5
3 DANCING WITH THE STARS ABC 19,766 6.8
4 CSI CBS 17,431 6.0
5 NBC SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL NBC 16,835 5.8
6 NCIS CBS 16,800 5.8
7 DANCING W/STARS RESULTS ABC 16,313 5.6
8 MENTALIST, THE CBS 16,288 5.6
9 DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES ABC 14,439 5.0
10 60 MINUTES CBS 14,143 4.9
11 TWO AND A HALF MEN CBS 14,111 4.9
12 CRIMINAL MINDS CBS 13,714 4.7
13 CSI: MIAMI CBS 13,171 4.5
14 SURVIVOR: GABON CBS 12,914 4.5
15 GREY’S ANATOMY ABC 12,885 4.4
16 CSI: NY CBS 12,531 4.3
17 SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS CBS 12,104 4.2
18 WITHOUT A TRACE CBS 12,047 4.2
19 HOUSE FOX 12,001 4.1
20 COLD CASE CBS 11,606 4.0
Do I recall that the Amazing Race Finished somewhere in the low 30s in placement on this ranking?
What would I do? I would continue to treat 60 Minutes as if it were the most special program in the entire CBS lineup. I hope the Amazing Race in its 20th+ or so season can take that title away.
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I think there is a simpler answer to this whole thing. CBS has more 60 minutes episodes ready for broadcast and fewer TAR16 episodes. Putting a week spacer into the TAR16 run pushes the finale to a more desirable May sweeps slot. And finally, TAR junkies will be even more ravenous for an episode after a one-week hiatus than 60 minutes viewers.
That's just my $0.02.
georgiapeach:
Victor’s Amazing Race Blog: Redemption and Revenge
April 12, 2010
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On the ninth leg of this edition of the Amazing Race, the five remaining teams travel to Singapore. At the Victoria Concert House, Alan Wu (the host of Amazing Race: Asia) offers a choice of “detour” tasks: teams must either “pound drums” by learning a traditional lion drum routine or “pound pavement” by selling 25 ice cream sandwiches. After the detour, teams are given the option to U-Turn one other team. If a team is U-Turned, they must return and complete the other detour task. The roadblock this leg is at the boat dock, where one team member must count the links in a giant anchor chain. After all the tasks are completed, teams race to the pit stop located at the Marina Barrage.
Yet there was another task, too — the Fast Forward, a task that allows the first team to complete it the ability to bypass all other tasks and proceed directly to the pit stop. Brothers Dan and Jordan were the lucky ones to do this challenge, probably my favorite Fast Forward task ever, which requires a team to ride the Singapore Flyer (the world’s largest observation wheel) to the top, get out of the safety of their car, and then crawl from one car to the next, 541 feet above the ground. Dan and Jordan show tremendous competitiveness and courage and finish despite Jordan’s clear fear of heights. Kudos!
For the rest, they opt to “pound drums” instead of sell ice cream. I’m not sure why “pound drums” was the preferred choice, especially since it didn’t seem that difficult to sell the ice cream. Nevertheless, teams struggled as they tried to learn the traditional drum routine from elementary school children. Even so, Caite really stood out. Not only did she have no difficulty learning the routine, she also helped Brent focus and talked him through the task. As a result, the two were able to get to the U-Turn quickly.
That proved critical as the elimination this week was decided by the U-Turn. So — spoiler alert! — Brent and Caite decided to U-Turn Carol and Brandy, which set the two women back and led to their last-place finish.
Caite went into this race looking to prove herself to the nation after her embarrassing moment at the Miss Teen USA competition where she fumbled an answer about geography. Throughout the Race, Carol and Brandy made sure Caite did not forget that moment by asking where her tiara was, impersonating her answer, and commenting on her intelligence. Well, Caite had her redemption moment. Not only did Brent and Caite succeed this leg because of her smarts and ability to learn a complicated routine under pressure, but Caite was able to exact revenge on Carol and Brandy by U-Turning them. This was not strategic — it was personal. Carol and Brandy’s biggest mistake, then, happened long ago during the very first leg. They made an enemy.
But back to the Race! We are close to the final leg and only one team away from the final three. In terms of momentum, Louie and Michael are going the wrong direction. They survive this leg because they stoke Brent and Caite’s dislike of Carol and Brandy. I’m worried they will not crack the top three. I really like how Dan and Jordan are working together. It was nice to see Brent and Caite stay calm — this is a new and more confident team. And what’s not to like about the cowboys Jet and Cord? What’s great this season is that there is no one favorite or dominant team. It will be very interesting to see what happens next. — Victor Jih
Tell us: Why do you think every team chose drums over ice cream? Which team would you have U-Turned? And now that only four teams are left, who do you think will be in the final three?
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http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/04/12/victors-amazing-race-blog-redemption-and-revenge/
Hooky:
--- Quote ---Caite went into this race looking to prove herself to the nation after her embarrassing moment at the Miss Teen USA competition where she fumbled an answer about geography. Throughout the Race, Carol and Brandy made sure Caite did not forget that moment by asking where her tiara was, impersonating her answer, and commenting on her intelligence. Well, Caite had her redemption moment. Not only did Brent and Caite succeed this leg because of her smarts and ability to learn a complicated routine under pressure, but Caite was able to exact revenge on Carol and Brandy by U-Turning them. This was not strategic — it was personal. Carol and Brandy’s biggest mistake, then, happened long ago during the very first leg. They made an enemy.
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This paragraph is disappointing. It just follows the spoon-fed storyline without any kind of thought put into it. (:;)
At the time, the two teams weren't really enemies. To become enemies, they would have had to have more moments like this later in the race.
--- Quote ---Throughout the Race, Carol and Brandy made sure Caite did not forget that moment by asking where her tiara was, impersonating her answer, and commenting on her intelligence.
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We have little to no evidence that this sort of thing occurred beyond the incident in Leg 1.
--- Quote ---Carol and Brandy’s biggest mistake, then, happened long ago during the very first leg. They made an enemy.
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They didn't make an enemy so much as the enemy created itself. It happened after very little justifiable action on the part of Carol & Brandy.
Boingo:
:groan: Our trusty "Singapore Spoiler" reporter Germaine Lim, from "The New Paper" in Singapore, seems to be unimpressed with the latest TAR leg in his home town.
Here's his article in The Electric New Paper (online).
Thanks go out to our new reporter TAR fan and honorary detective for his journalistic efforts. :tup:
Hooky:
--- Quote from: Boingo on April 16, 2010, 02:58:04 PM --- :groan: Our trusty "Singapore Spoiler" reporter Germaine Lim, from "The New Paper" in Singapore, seems to be unimpressed with the latest TAR leg in his home town.
Here's his article in The Electric New Paper (online).
Thanks go out to our new reporter TAR fan and honorary detective for his journalistic efforts. :tup:
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I like think it's interesting that they don't even discuss the U-turn. But I agree with Wu, they can only show so much in a 45 minute show with a Detour, Roadblock, and Fast Forward. :lol:
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