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Ep#4: Is Zev or Justin the new Dallas?
Snooky:
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on October 09, 2009, 08:33:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: CTYankee on October 09, 2009, 06:52:00 PM ---I find "walkingpneumonia's" rainman comment very distasteful and 100% uncalled for. I think an apology is owed to Zev and his family and friends.
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Gosh.
Perhaps you could use this opportunity to educate us CTYankee??
I work with children, know several people with Asbergers, and have a best friend with a child who has the diagnosis as well. So I am embarassed to say that I did not know that "rainman" was considered derogatory in any way. :-[
I thought that the term referred to an "autistic savant", which is of course a VERY limited 1988 view of autism, not a 2009 view.
But I always thought that as limited in the portrayl of only one very rare form of autism as it was, the movie did at least introduce a lot of people to autism.
And while I only remember the broad outline of the movie, IIRC, when I think of the movie I remember it as showing a brother coming to love and appreciate and understand his autistic brother, much as Zev has done for Asberger's and TAR viewers.
I will say that RFF prides itself on NEVER allowing derogatory comments to be made regarding anyone with a disability...whether that be a "little person", an athlete with one leg, a hearing impaired racer, or someone with Asberger's.
In my mind, ZEV has touched all of our hearts and opened many, many eyes to Asberger's, and has been an inspiration to all of us, proving yet again that nothing need stand in the way of achieving a dream.
If the term "rainman" IS insensitive, I certainly would like to know for future reference, so any guidance you could offer would be appreciated. I know that during Charla's time on the race, a lot of people learned that the term "midget" was considered offensive, so if this is a similar case we all need to be made aware, so thank you for mentioning it.
But we LOVE Zev and his determination, his humor, and his racing skills around here, so I am very sure no purposeful disrespect was intended.
:ghug:
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Yes, I have a family member with Asbergers, and I do not find that insulting as well, Zev is probably one of my FAVORITES this season, so I have no bias against him either.
redskevin88:
--- Quote from: CTYankee on October 09, 2009, 06:52:00 PM ---I find "walkingpneumonia's" rainman comment very distasteful and 100% uncalled for. I think an apology is owed to Zev and his family and friends.
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I'm autistic, and I've been called worse. I'm okay with it.
redskevin88:
1. How do you feel about the spoilers?
It sucks, but I think that they will be out
2. Do we get to see both tasks this week, or they have to save room for the "Passport" drama?
Probably yeah, but they will skip a route info or two
3. Who do you think loses the clue?
Zev and Justin
4. Do you think they recover? And I can't believe CBS spoiled it.
Hopefully yeah, but maybe not
Hooky:
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on October 09, 2009, 08:33:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: CTYankee on October 09, 2009, 06:52:00 PM ---I find "walkingpneumonia's" rainman comment very distasteful and 100% uncalled for. I think an apology is owed to Zev and his family and friends.
--- End quote ---
Gosh.
Perhaps you could use this opportunity to educate us CTYankee??
I work with children, know several people with Asbergers, and have a best friend with a child who has the diagnosis as well. So I am embarassed to say that I did not know that "rainman" was considered derogatory in any way. :-[
I thought that the term referred to an "autistic savant", which is of course a VERY limited 1988 view of autism, not a 2009 view.
But I always thought that as limited in the portrayl of only one very rare form of autism as it was, the movie did at least introduce a lot of people to autism.
And while I only remember the broad outline of the movie, IIRC, when I think of the movie I remember it as showing a brother coming to love and appreciate and understand his autistic brother, much as Zev has done for Asberger's and TAR viewers.
I will say that RFF prides itself on NEVER allowing derogatory comments to be made regarding anyone with a disability...whether that be a "little person", an athlete with one leg, a hearing impaired racer, or someone with Asberger's.
If the term "rainman" IS insensitive, I certainly would like to know for future reference, so any guidance you could offer would be appreciated. I know that during Charla's time on the race, a lot of people learned that the term "midget" was considered offensive, so if this is a similar case we all need to be made aware, so thank you for mentioning it.
:ghug:
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I don't think that the term "Rain Man" is offensive at all. Then again, I probably couldn't judge. But just because one person is offended by a term, doesn't mean that everyone is/must be. If that were the case, there would be no descriptive terms for anything! :tup:
Hooky:
1. How do you feel about the spoilers? They are extremely over-the-top, and should stop now before we find out the winner from CBS itself!
2. Do we get to see both tasks this week, or they have to save room for the "Passport" drama? There will be both tasks, but they will not be the main focus. The editing of racing will be quick, saving time for the passport problems.
3. Who do you think loses the clue? I don't know that we will be able to blame one person. We may not know when they lose it, thus neither would be responsible.
4. Do you think they recover? And I can't believe CBS spoiled it. I don't think they will recover if their confessional is at night. But then again, it could be a confessional from a future leg (if they survive), or from the same leg but they are simply interviewed late for some reason (if they survive). Or maybe they had just accepted elimination by that point.
And I can believe CBS spoiled it. They are lame these days.
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