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Amazing Race Season 15 ratings
theschnauzers:
No, he means the current fall-spring cycle setup.
mswood:
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--- Quote from: mswood on December 08, 2009, 01:07:57 PM ---We end with an unofficial season average of
11.132 million viewers (5th highest)
3.375 in adults 18-49 (3.4 basically).
Now on this, since I don't have numbers for all episodes and seasons (unlike viewers). But since moving to Sundays this is the third best (seasons 10 and 12 beat it). But its better then the 3 of the seasons and with a vastly depressed Sunday (for CBS) it is exceptionally good.
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Since TAR moved to Sunday, are the fall ratings better than the spring reasons? :hides
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Yes, but that is typical of TV in general. Though in fairness it actually started the year before with season's 8 - 9.
The only other possible comparisons is seasons 1 -2 (but I hate to judge season one, since a good portion of that season was heavily impacted by the change in viewership due to 9-11). And then we had the late summer to Spring stretch of seasons 5,6 and 7 (what a great year for TAR). BUt with the advent of stunt casting off of the far more successful survivor (which was hitting 10 million more viewers then TAR at that time), it also makes it unfair to use that (as season 7 was in the Spring).
So we should expect a good drop in the spring, not only do we have little help from sports (for CBS in general, though Basketball usually helps for about 4 weeks), we get hit hard by the Oscars (typically the lowest broadcast for TAR of that year, and we might even get hit by the Olympics depending on when we start. Then we also will have to deal with having a much lower turnout for CBS on Sunday to begin with (with the failure of its 9 and 10 programming.
Of course, the good side of that is TAR even with lower numbers will still stick out from the rest of the CBS lineup.
Truly if anything CBS should learn its lesson and bump up its order of hours for TAR. With either (hell both would be nice) going back to two hours for the first leg (not two episodes, but two hours), which they have done in seasons 5,6,7,8,9 (4 and 10 had 90 minute episodes). And bump the episode order back up to 13 (I mean I am happy they went up to 12 (truly I am). Hell they could even increase the final leg into two hours (they have aired two episodes for the finale, but never have they actually had a two hour final leg).
The cons of adding an leg is that it is expensive (longer time holding people, travel expenses, more stunts and tasks, ect).
The pros for upping the opener or the closing leg (to two hours) is that it adds almost no additional cost. Its just more post production and editing. And they can reap much larger ad rates then what will most likely be airing when TAR isn't. Season 12 proved without a doubt that TAR could still be huge for CBS during the off season.
Caelestor:
--- Quote from: mswood on December 08, 2009, 10:47:07 PM ---
Of course, the good side of that is TAR even with lower numbers will still stick out from the rest of the CBS lineup.
Truly if anything CBS should learn its lesson and bump up its order of hours for TAR. With either (hell both would be nice) going back to two hours for the first leg (not two episodes, but two hours), which they have done in seasons 5,6,7,8,9 (4 and 10 had 90 minute episodes). And bump the episode order back up to 13 (I mean I am happy they went up to 12 (truly I am). Hell they could even increase the final leg into two hours (they have aired two episodes for the finale, but never have they actually had a two hour final leg).
The cons of adding an leg is that it is expensive (longer time holding people, travel expenses, more stunts and tasks, ect).
The pros for upping the opener or the closing leg (to two hours) is that it adds almost no additional cost. Its just more post production and editing. And they can reap much larger ad rates then what will most likely be airing when TAR isn't. Season 12 proved without a doubt that TAR could still be huge for CBS during the off season.
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A 2-hour intro would be very much appreciated to help us get to know the teams. A 2-hour finale would be too much imo, but a 90 minute leg + a 30-minute reunion show would be excellent (Survivor has it, why can't we?).
Over the issue of budget, I've also said before that TAR should make two legs in the same country one TBC to reduce pit stop / speedbump cost (sorely disappointed that they didn't implement one in Dubai & Prague this season). However, I believe TAR's primary costs come from all those expensive flight tickets purchased the day of the flight. Thus I believe the producers are now purchasing them in advance, using more direct flights, and manipulating pit stops to cut down on cost. Ways to solve this: Take the train or bus in Europe/South America (they are apparently doing the latter in the starting legs of TAR 16), and avoid going to too many first-world countries in one season (like Japan :groan:).
As for TAR 16, it should start the Sunday after Oscars with a 2-hour intro and have a continuous run (Except for that annual b-ball game). I can't see CBS putting their strongest Sunday series against one of the most-watched telecasts of the entire year AGAIN :groan:. Furthermore, TAR's ratings tend to climb throughout the season as viewers get reacquainted with the latest cycle. I'm not sure how many episodes CBS can order without running over the end of the TV season, but I would really love 12.5 hours this season + reunion show (slowly inching our way back to a full cycle).
Seattlite:
To have a show that has been around as long as TAR and showing such season to season growth when most shows (Survivor) are fading is a gem for CBS. They may invest more money directly in the show and we have more legs or they visit more expensive countries. They may keep a 12th team in the race longer or spend more on promotion. The race filming now will be fitting into a odd post Olympic schedule so I think the races filmed next year will be affected more.
georgiapeach:
--- Quote from: Seattlite on December 09, 2009, 08:44:42 AM ---To have a show that has been around as long as TAR and showing such season to season growth when most shows (Survivor) are fading is a gem for CBS. They may invest more money directly in the show and we have more legs or they visit more expensive countries. They may keep a 12th team in the race longer or spend more on promotion. The race filming now will be fitting into a odd post Olympic schedule so I think the races filmed next year will be affected more.
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Or they will just continue to save $$ on the race where they can...I have no faith that good ratings will translate into more $$ spent ON the race, but I will just be grateful and thankful if it keeps us going!!! :yess:
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