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Chateau d If:
--- Quote from: apskip on August 09, 2009, 01:35:34 PM ---Chateau,
Wow! There are some perfect fits for what we are looking for:
Incoming Dubai to Amman choice of 2 flights landing 20 minutes apart:
DBX AMM EK901 0725 0920 or RJ613 0730 0940
Tel Aviv to Frankfurt: TLV FRA LH6871645 2000
connecting to FRA BRE LH350 2125 2220
An alternative is Tel Aviv to Amesterdam TLV AMS LY339 1705 2110
Bremen is actually closer to Amsterdam and has a lower probability of an airport siting (because nobosy would expect the Amazing Race there), so I prefer the first approach but the second gives a precious 20 minutes extra on a very tight timetable for teams to do their land routes to and from Massada.
As Professor Henry Higgins was fond of saying, "I think we've got it."
The Amman to Masada to Tel Aviv portion would be by self-drivecar or taxi. The only almost-certainty is using the Allenby/King Hussein gate to go into East Jerusalem, since it is one of only 3 border crossings between Israel and Jordan and the other 2 are far north and far south of it.
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--- Quote from: apskip on August 09, 2009, 01:59:33 PM ---I now have the land distances associated with my post above.
The distance from Amman to Jerusalem is only 45 miles, but it can take up to 5 hours or longer. I have to assume that World Race Productions has obtained prior authorization for that to be expedited, so let's say 1.5 hours for this portion.
From Jerusalem south to Massada on the west bank of the Dead Sea is 90km, or 55 miles. Say 1.5 hours for that segment since the first part is very urban and congested.
Assume that the tasks at Massada will take one hour and end in a TBC.
From Massada northwest to Ben Gurion Airport is 133 km or 83 miles. Let's say 1.5 hours for that segment since it is mostly rural.
The resulting timeline is:
ready to go from Amman International Airport 1020
across King Hussein/Allenby Gate 1150
arrive Massada 1320
leave Massada 1420
arrive Ben Gurion 1550
departure of LH687 to Frankfurt 1645
There is no slack in these assumptions. That is barely enough time for teams to buy tickets adn get onto LH687, but it could potentially have been done.
Comments from those who have driven around Israel more recently than me (1981) will be appreciated, particualrly on whether the border crossing could be expedited and how long it takes to drive in those parts of Israel.
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I think we can fit this in. But there is one thing that still bothers me about making it fit and that is that the original spoiler said that he was going for a dawn climb of the Masada when he saw the racer's jeeps with flags. So that would be dawn on the 29th. Well, we had a team in Dubai at that time. Or if it was dawn on the 30th how do we get the teams up to Vierhuizen by 10 am?
georgiapeach:
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on August 10, 2009, 01:43:32 AM ---
I think we can fit this in. But there is one thing that still bothers me about making it fit and that is that the original spoiler said that he was going for a dawn climb of the Masada when he saw the racer's jeeps with flags. So that would be dawn on the 29th. Well, we had a team in Dubai at that time. Or if it was dawn on the 30th how do we get the teams up to Vierhuizen by 10 am?
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Based solely on one tweet from Steffi. Who could have her dates wrong somehow?? Maybe it was the 28th?
I don't know...but one tweet vs photos+film permits from Masada.... I'm thinking Masada.
And you can get to Vierhuizen by 10 AM :
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on August 06, 2009, 09:10:25 AM ---re Masada:
I just checked flights from Tel Aviv on the 30th.
There is a direct flight to Brussels dep110am arr 505 ish which could connect to a shuttle to AMS, wh actually arrived at 712 AM. So logistically tight, but possible?
July 27th should have been taskday/Pitstop in Dubai, allowing teams to depart Dubai on the 28th.
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Chateau d If:
Steffi's post times are solid and not subject to mis-interpretation. The only wiggle room is what time did they 'check out' of their hotel. Maybe it was at oh-dark-hundred on the 29th and so the team she saw had access to very early flights out of DXB. Also, her older M/F couple who teach skydiving in America could be the last team and way behind the pack. The lead teams may have left Dubai the evening before.
Then we could have the pack doing the Masada at dawn on the 29th. And then a-la-apskip:
leave Massada 1420
arrive Ben Gurion 1550
departure of LH687 to Frankfurt 1645
Tel Aviv to Frankfurt: TLV FRA LH6871645 2000
connecting to FRA BRE LH350 2125 2220
And, on the morning of the 30th, they get access to the Mercedes and they drive to Vierhuizen.
How does that sound? :tup:
apskip:
I have some new information which relates to the possibilities. There are 3 ways to get from Dubai to either Amman or Tel Aviv on the evening of Tuesday July 28.
The best by far is nonstop RJ619 DXB AMM 2110 2320
Later arriving in Amman is GF567 DXB BAH 1820 1905 connecting Bahrain to GF5809 BAH AMM 2105 2345
Earlier but using a more circuitous route to Tel Aviv is EK131 DXB DME 1740 2255 connecting Moscow Domodedovo to LY616 DME TLV 2355 0255+1. This gets in well after midnight, which might minimize the hazards of being sighted in Ben Gurion Airport.
georgiapeach:
From a reliable source:
Teams FLEW into Phnom Penh (presumably from HCMC) via Phnom Penh International. The red and yellow flags were seen on Friday, July 24 at the airport.
error: see update below
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