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apskip:
Mooyou,

Yes, it looks like AR15 is back to an 11 episode season, just like most recent seasons except AR14. No, you cannot assume that there is no TBC in AR15. At this point, we do not know. TBCs do not have to be in the same city. Witness AR10's Finland combined with Kiev TBC episodes.

Moo:

--- Quote from: apskip on August 09, 2009, 06:06:08 AM ---Mooyou,

Yes, it looks like AR15 is back to an 11 episode season, jsut like most recent seasons except AR14. No, you cannot assuem that there is no TBC in AR15. AT this point, we do not know. TBCs do not have to be in the same city. Witness AR10's Finland combined with Kiev TBC episodes.

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Oh yeah, I remember that... Another thing that came into my mind that TAR might/could get TARI's editing focusing some legs into two episodes, which could prolong it's airing and reducing the legs? Could that be a plausible thing as well?

Chateau d If:

--- Quote from: Kiwi Jay on August 09, 2009, 03:47:37 AM ---I think Dubai was two legs because we obviously need 11 legs so this is what everything points to:


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That's why I put 44 hours in Dubai.  What happens during that time is tbd on any incoming info.

apskip:
Chateau,

I had hypothesized that teams would get to Groningen from Bremen airport. Unfortunately, the schedules do not work out compare to the very efficient flight Dubai to Hamburg (EK59 DXB HAM 0900 1345 as identified by you arriving ). To fly from Hamburg to Bremen, a distance of 59 miles, requires a connection in Munich, Frankfurt or Amsterdam, none of which make any sense. It is easier for teams to just drive Hamburg to Groningen with their German-supplied Mercedes vehicles for  the 144 mile trip to Groningen. To fly to Amsterdam and still have a bout a 110 mile (93 miels from central Amsterdam plus the extra distance from Schiphol) trip just makes no sense to me, and I suspect also to world Race Productions.

I suggest you alter your timeline accordingly. With customs clearance into the EC, security etc. teams could be driving from Hamburg airport before 1445 and arrive Groningen before 1745. Your scenario is not feasible since with a 1625 arrival and the same 1 hour customs/security assumption and a 2.2 hour drive it will be after 1837 before any team could arriva via flying Hamburg to Amsterdam.

georgiapeach:
As far as our source understands, teams arrived in Gronigen in the mid morning, NOT the night before. (Although nothing says they couldn't have arr Netherlands the night before and did not arr Gronigen till that AM.) He also understood that teams arrived from Dubai, but has been unable to clarify whether this meant directly from Dubai, or just had been in Dubai previously.



--- Quote from: AmazingPace on August 09, 2009, 04:45:51 AM ---You all keep ignoring the Leg in Masada, Israel even though you all saw pictures of a cluebox and Jeeps with the american production logo and at the same date a leg was "missing" on your timeline. How come??? What am I missing here?

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I actually agree with you on this. The sighting in Masada is excellent, particularly since we have had no further sightings of what could have been TARI,  AND since we KNOW that TARA is not yet filming, and we also believe that TARI is not yet filming.

We have teams seen the night of July 26th in Dubai with an eyewitness who says they were doing a sign up sheet, for a task/s on the 27th. So the (first?) Dubai leg could be completed  as soon as  midday the 27th. If there is a pitstop with an early AM release on the 28th...OR if this were a TBC leg, teams CAN be in Israel in time for the Masada sighting, and can be in Amsterdam by very early AM on the  30th for the Gronigen leg (I have posted a possible Tel Aviv to AMS via Brussels flight elsewhere). We have the time July 28-30 for another leg without doubt.

SO what is the difficulty?

We also have a Twiitter report from Steffi, whose previous timeline has been very accurate, that she saw teams in her hotel the morning of the 29th IN DUBAI, asking about flights/the airport.  Clearly teams cannot be both in Dubai and in Israel.

My hope is that once we can reach Steffi, we can clarify this. It is our understanding that she has no Internet right now, but trust me, she has a lot of questions waiting for her when she does, and we can only hope that she will reply. If her dates are off, or if she meant to say the day before, then Masada is absolutely possible. If she stands by the date of 7/29 for her sighting, then we need to choose.

So the choice appears to be between a second Dubai leg, a leg somewhere else entirely (doubtful), or a documented (photo and permits) of Masada.

For me, Masada is much more appealing and I hope that we can reconcile the confusion to accept this 100%.

But we are NOT ignoring it, there has been a lot of Detective conversation and research on this, nothing has yet been ruled out.

I would also like to add here that right now all evidence points to the Mauritius info being shared as a false spoiler, possibly quite deliberate. We also hope to have further documentation of that before long.

Does that help explain a little?? ???





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