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TAR14 Finale: 'This is How You Lose a Million Dollars'
makz3d:
--- Quote ---V: I actually wish they had aired a little bit more of the near disasters or the near fiascos that ended up working out. There were so many strangers who helped us out that unfortunately people will never see. Even in that final leg, the travel agent accidentally gave us first class tickets.
T: We almost went the way of Azaria and Hendekea in the final leg.
V: We almost freaked out and in Tokyo, these great people from Hawaii in fact, basically said "You know what? Let us give you our credit card and make long distance calls as long as you want to sort this out."
T: And they gave us money to eat and the kindness of strangers we experienced during this race was incredible.
V: Even in the Beijing airport we ran into this random person who let us use their cell phone to make international calls and we found this person sleeping on the floor who basically pulled out his wallet and gave us the little bit of money that he had. We were able to survive all of those things, but to me it's amazing how strangers were willing to help other strangers.
--- End quote ---
This is from the BuddyTV interview.
Has anyone checked with Tammy & Victor about the first class tickets? There could have been a whole different outcome. There was the spoiler with T/V in same Tokyo airport as M/L & J/C but didn't seem to be on the same plane and appeared to be with Phil & BVM and production. Were the wrong tickets for Tokyo to Hawaii? Or did they actually use them to get to Tokyo? If so then it seems there would have been a penalty.
chill_sd:
--- Quote from: makz3d on May 12, 2009, 09:52:52 AM ---
--- Quote ---V: I actually wish they had aired a little bit more of the near disasters or the near fiascos that ended up working out. There were so many strangers who helped us out that unfortunately people will never see. Even in that final leg, the travel agent accidentally gave us first class tickets.
T: We almost went the way of Azaria and Hendekea in the final leg.
V: We almost freaked out and in Tokyo, these great people from Hawaii in fact, basically said "You know what? Let us give you our credit card and make long distance calls as long as you want to sort this out."
T: And they gave us money to eat and the kindness of strangers we experienced during this race was incredible.
V: Even in the Beijing airport we ran into this random person who let us use their cell phone to make international calls and we found this person sleeping on the floor who basically pulled out his wallet and gave us the little bit of money that he had. We were able to survive all of those things, but to me it's amazing how strangers were willing to help other strangers.
--- End quote ---
This is from the BuddyTV interview.
Has anyone checked with Tammy & Victor about the first class tickets? There could have been a whole different outcome. There was the spoiler with T/V in same Tokyo airport as M/L & J/C but didn't seem to be on the same plane and appeared to be with Phil & BVM and production. Were the wrong tickets for Tokyo to Hawaii? Or did they actually use them to get to Tokyo? If so then it seems there would have been a penalty.
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It sounds like they sorted it out in Tokyo, so it must have been on the Hawaii leg that they had first class tickets. This is probably why they were in the same area as Phil and BVM, because they had to get the tickets changed.
DrRox:
--- Quote from: apskip on May 11, 2009, 10:54:30 AM ---
The reasonable choices(from the Timelines thread) were:
PEK to NRT:
JL780 0825 1255
NH956 0830 1300
NW30 0900 1340
CA925 0925 1355
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apskip,
My research says that NW30, PEK-NRT was canceled on Nov 21. I also find a PK852 on Nov 21, PEK-NRT at 08:35-12:50. The spoiler was definitely on CA925 and saw Phil, BVM and T/V at the transfer desk in Terminal T-1-S. So that would rule out the JL780 and PK852 flights, since they both were at NRT Terminal T-2, and the spoiler would not have seen them in T-1-S. If NW30 PEK-NRT was in fact canceled, then the only flight that Phil,BVM, and T/V could have been on was NH956.
flight data for PEK-NRT on Nov 21, 2008.
JL 780 JAL 8:25 AM 8:40 AM T-3 12:45 PM 12:56 PM T-2 Landed
On-time 767
PK 852 Pakistan International Airlines 8:35 AM T-2 12:50 PM 1:11 PM T-2 Landed
21 min(late) 310
NH 956 ANA 8:45 AM 8:53 AM T-3 1:05 PM 1:25 PM T-1-S Landed
20 min(late) 763
NW 30 Northwest Airlines 8:55 AM T-1-N 1:35 PM T-1 Cancelled
332
CA 925 Air China International 9:30 AM 9:54 AM T-3 1:50 PM 1:37 PM T-1-S Landed
On-time 74E
CA 167 Air China International 1:30 PM 1:58 PM T-3 5:50 PM 5:52 PM T-1-S Landed
On-time 757
NH 906 ANA 2:50 PM 3:13 PM T-3 7:15 PM 7:23 PM T-1-S Landed
On-time 763
JL 782 JAL 3:30 PM 3:30 PM T-3 7:50 PM 7:44 PM T-2 Landed
On-time 767
CA 421 Air China International 4:40 PM 4:44 PM T-3 9:00 PM 8:37 PM T-1-S Landed
On-time 757
apskip:
Dr. Rox,
The ticket machine that Tammy/Victor got tickets from was JAL. Why not JL780? It was the most logical (first) one anyway. Just because it wasn't in the same terminal does not mean they weren't eventually on it; it just makes it not probable.
apskip:
--- Quote from: chill_sd on May 12, 2009, 10:45:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: makz3d on May 12, 2009, 09:52:52 AM ---
--- Quote ---V: I actually wish they had aired a little bit more of the near disasters or the near fiascos that ended up working out. There were so many strangers who helped us out that unfortunately people will never see. Even in that final leg, the travel agent accidentally gave us first class tickets.
T: We almost went the way of Azaria and Hendekea in the final leg.
V: We almost freaked out and in Tokyo, these great people from Hawaii in fact, basically said "You know what? Let us give you our credit card and make long distance calls as long as you want to sort this out."
T: And they gave us money to eat and the kindness of strangers we experienced during this race was incredible.
V: Even in the Beijing airport we ran into this random person who let us use their cell phone to make international calls and we found this person sleeping on the floor who basically pulled out his wallet and gave us the little bit of money that he had. We were able to survive all of those things, but to me it's amazing how strangers were willing to help other strangers.
--- End quote ---
This is from the BuddyTV interview.
Has anyone checked with Tammy & Victor about the first class tickets? There could have been a whole different outcome. There was the spoiler with T/V in same Tokyo airport as M/L & J/C but didn't seem to be on the same plane and appeared to be with Phil & BVM and production. Were the wrong tickets for Tokyo to Hawaii? Or did they actually use them to get to Tokyo? If so then it seems there would have been a penalty.
--- End quote ---
It sounds like they sorted it out in Tokyo, so it must have been on the Hawaii leg that they had first class tickets. This is probably why they were in the same area as Phil and BVM, because they had to get the tickets changed.
--- End quote ---
makz3d, I totally agree with chill_sd on this. They bought an alternate ticket in Tokyo. The leg originally with first-class tickets had to be Tokyo to Honolulu. With 3 flights between 8am and 9am just on Hawaiian Airlines, there would be no reason to have first-class tickets from Honolulu to Kahului airport(Maui) because tickets are so inexpensive ($38 much of the time coach, $159 almost always first-class).
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