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Why the Amazing Race has lost its magic
RichInSydney:
--- Quote from: Dån (cdfe88) on December 23, 2009, 07:24:33 PM ---I would disagree with your NELs point. They are only predictable when we get the confessionals. Besides teams never know when it's going to be a NEL and IMO teams are always racing like there's an elimination ahead, I think there has never been a case in which a team decided to relax knowing that they'd be NEL'd.
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Yeh good point. What I should have said is that its more predictable for the viewer. 4 teams left, 3 episodes to go, you do the maths.
Caelestor:
^This feels like we're reiterating points we've already made. Just to throw in my two cents:
1. I don't care how many teams start the race, as long as each get an appropriate amount of screentime (in other words, no early eliminations). I do agree that often the first legs feel rushed since we don't know anybody. Conversely, the later legs feel empty because there are only a few teams left.
To fix that, make the first leg a straight-up 2 hour premier. Have the first half set in one region, then have teams sign up on charter buses to another reasonably near location for the second half. Only one team goes home at the end of the second hour.
2. There needs to be some episodes where no one is eliminated; otherwise, we'd have a really short season. I personally believe that NELs just incite debate because no one can agree on what the appropriate penalty should be. Speedbumps are getting lamer each season. I advocate TBCs for legs in the same country or city. As an example, this is how TAR 15 could have gone:
Leg 1 (scrap the entire useless 1st episode and have teams go directly to Cai Be): 12th team eliminated.
Leg 2: 11th team eliminated.
Leg 3: 10th team eliminated.
Leg 4: Dubai TBC, 9th team eliminated.
Leg 5 (Somewhere in Africa): 8th team eliminated.
Leg 6 (Back to Netherlands): 7th eliminated.
Leg 7: 6th team eliminatd.
Leg 8: 5th team eliminated.
Leg 9: Prague TBC, 4th team eliminated
Leg 10: Finale.
3. Agree with it. Either one per leg (up to a certain point), or none at all.
4. Can't argue with that. Of course, make the islands big enough so that there are enough places to visit. It should also not be too hard to get there.
5. The only way to fix this is to give teams their own car (which the producers should; it reduces spoilers). Unfortunately, teams can't run on foot or take public transport, as the producers are trying to limit the amount of spoilers that escape out.
6. True on that. Have the confessions indoors!
And my other major point: teams must depart 12 hours after they arrive. Viewers do notice these details.
Dånooky:
--- Quote from: Caelestor on December 23, 2009, 08:51:34 PM ---Speedbumps are getting lamer each season. I advocate TBCs for legs in the same country or city.
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I have to disagree with that. I don't understand why people would want the Speedbump to be something über complex. Come on, the team is most probably already last. IMO having them waste 20 minutes in an easy, yet difficult-to-find task is enough of a penalty. The point is not to make the teams complete another challenge, but to put more pressure on them by forcing them to waste race time. In essence it's the same thing as the begging, usually teams were over it pretty fast.
apskip:
RichInSydney,
I think your proposal on no taxis in the final leg is a bit lacking in appreciation for the difficulty of self-navigating when coming off a transoceanic flight (usually either the Pacific or Atlantic and usually at least 13 hours) to reach the Final City. It is a safety hazard for teams to drive themselves in those conditions. Why would World Race Productions want to put the teams at risk unnecessarily? The fact that taxi rides more often than not decide the final results is unfortunate but probably not avoidable unless WRP uses hired drivers in marked cars.
Zack.:
--- Quote from: apskip on December 23, 2009, 10:10:21 PM ---RichInSydney,
I think your proposal on no taxis in the final leg is a big lacking in appreciation for the difficulty of self-navigating when coming off a transoceanic flight (usually either the Pacific or Atlantic and usually at least 13 hours) to reaach the Final City. It is a safety hazard for teams to drive themselves in those conditions. Why would World Race Productions want to put the teams at risk unnecessarily. The fact that taxi rides more often than not decide the final results is unfortunate but probably not avoidable unless WRP uses hired drivers in marked cars.
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Not to mention if you let teams drive themselves when they're close to the money, they might do (illegal) things that taxis wouldn't have the nerve to do.
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