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AR14 Timelines, Timetables and Flight Information
DrRox:
Well so much for worrying about the length of the pit stop and how long the next leg is.......all moot now. I think you are right......there should be a HOO rest period after the swimming pool, and all getting bunched up at the place that Phil sends them to, from the Drum Tower. It could also be one of those "take a time" deals.
DrRox:
--- Quote from: Neobie on April 01, 2009, 05:01:56 PM ---Here are the Friday evening Tokyo-Honolulu flights, with JAL flights highlighted in red:
JO76: 1845-0635
JO8090: 1915-0645
UA880: 1925-0710
CI18: 1930-0720
NW96: 2010-0745
NW30: 2010-0745
NQ1052: 2055-0845
NW22: 2055-0845
JO74: 2100-0850
JO72: 2200-0950
Would Cara/Jaime and Margie/Luke actually fail to get on the first two flights? And if so, how would they?
If Tammy/Victor are still in the running, they would have outright beat them to begin the final leg...
We've seen some trouble with Tokyo-Honolulu flights in TAR6 before, haven't we? Flights with "no meals", Kendra's dying child...
--- End quote ---
These are the flights I found for Nov 21, 2008 for Toyko to Honolulu. They are the same as Neobie found. I have put the scheduled departure/arrival times in black and actual departure/arrival times in red. They differ from apskip's list of flights with the addition of JO 8090. apskip doesn't list this flight for some reason. I have no idea why Northwest Airlines would have two flights taking off at exactly the same time (NW 96 and NW 30) and landing at exactly the same time. I think it is probably the same flight, but who knows. On Nov 21, the PEK-NRT NW30 was cancelled. So maybe the passengers from that flight were put on NW96, if there was no equipment available. Phil/BVM/production crew and T/V probably flew on the following flight PEK-NRT. There are two earlier flights from PEK to NRT @ 08:25 and 08:35, but they arrive at a different termial than NH 956 and CA 925. It is important that Phil/BVM/produciton crew and T/V arrive at the same termianl as CA 925, in order for the blogger to observer them all in the same terminal and to ride the same shuttle bus to T-2.
NH 956 08:45(08:54) - 13:05(13:25) arrive NRT @ Terminal T-1-S
The spoiler/blogger flew on fight CA 925 with J/C and M/L from Beijing to Toyko. With a 24 minute takeoff delay, I can just see Jamie's stress level rising. Guess the pilot put the pedal to the metal, because it landed 13 minutes early.
CA 925: 09:30(09:54)-13:50(13:37) arrive NRT @ Terminal T-1-S
After this flight, the spoiler/blogger saw M/L and J/C go one way and the spoiler/blogger went to the Japan Airlines transfer desk, where she say Phil, BVM, production crew and T/V in line ahead of him/her. If these people were not flying on Japan Airlines, why would they be at the JAL transfer desk? After the spoiler/blogger finished at the transfer desk, she again saw all of the above people on the terminal shuttle bus. After arriving at termina T-2, she lost sight of all the aforementioned people and continued on to her gate.
One of the things we have had a lot of conjecture/speculation about is the proximity of Phil/BVM and production crew to T/V, if T/V were still racing. Here is some speculation. Phil/BVM and production could be flying on JO 76 and T/V could be on JO 8090. TPTB could ban teams from flying on JO 76 for the very reason to give them some separation.
Flights NRT-HNL on Nov 21, 2008
JO 76: 1845(18:48)-0635(06:31) depart NRT @ Terminal 2
JO 8090: 1915 - 0645(06:19) depart NRT @ Terminal 2
We will probably not know till the finale. But the finishing order this coming week might give us a clue. If T/V win the leg, then it is very possible, to me, that they could use their language skills at a travel agency in Beijing to book earlier flights than M/L or J/C will most probably do at the airport in Beijing. M/L and J/C could also have just gone the wrong direction in Narita and eventually found the JAL transfer desk and was never seen by the spoiler/blogger after she transferred terminals.
Other flights NRT-HNL on Nov 21, 2008
UA 880: 1925(19:16)-0710(07:08) depart NRT @ T-1
CI 18: 1930(19:32)-0720(07:30) depart NRT @ T-2
NW 96: 20:10(19:59)-0745(07:33) depart NRT @ T-1-N
NW 30: 2010(19:59)-0745(07:33) depart NRT @ T-1-N
NQ 1052: 2055(20:57)-0845(08:41) depart NRT @ T-1-S
NW 22: 2055(20:52)-0845(08:38) depart NRT @ T-1-N
JO 74: 2100(21:04)-0850(08:41) depart NRT @ T-2
JO 72: 2200(22:24)-0950(09:24) depart NRT @ T-2
Narita International Airport Terminals:
Terminal One = T-1
Terminal One-North Satelite = T-1-N
Terminal One-South Satelite = T-1-S
Terminal Two = T-2
What I do find interesting and happens every now and then, the 2nd taking off flight, is actually the first one to land. If this is in fact what happened, then T/V got to Hawaii before Phil/BVM and crew after all.
***If T/V were on JO 8090, then that gives them about 49 minutes on the ground in Honolulu to clear customs and catch the next flight to Maui, which as apskip has pointed out, are about every 30 minutes. Actually there are 14 flights from 07:00 till 12:00. They could actually be on the ground in Maui before the other teams have left Honolulu, If and ONLY IF they are still racing and are not decoys. If they are, in fact, decoys, then all of this is moot.
Also GeorgiaPeach added that TPTB might use first come, first served charters, just as they did in TAR11 to give Phil some lead time and a headstart on Maui.
Neobie:
--- Quote from: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 10:53:12 PM ---We had pretty good shots of the clock in the swimming complex - here's the times I think they finished:
Jaime/Cara: 10.30pm
Margie/Luke: 10.32pm
Tammy/Victor: 10.50pm
LaKisha/Jennifer: 11.20pm
--- End quote ---
Flag raising at Tiananmen Square, 20 Nov 2008: 7.05am.
Guesses on what happened? Did they go to Senegal?
Zack.:
--- Quote from: Neobie on May 04, 2009, 07:29:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 10:53:12 PM ---We had pretty good shots of the clock in the swimming complex - here's the times I think they finished:
Jaime/Cara: 10.30pm
Margie/Luke: 10.32pm
Tammy/Victor: 10.50pm
LaKisha/Jennifer: 11.20pm
--- End quote ---
Flag raising at Tiananmen Square, 20 Nov 2008: 7.05am.
Guesses on what happened? Did they go to Senegal?
--- End quote ---
Bunching at the Beihai Street Mall? It looked really light outside when K/J got their gnome (as compared to pitch black when K/J checked in at the Drum Tower)
apskip:
Neobie,
I too noticed that immediately last night, but I did it relative to sunrise in Beijing at 705 am on Nov. 20 (imagine that!). The possible explanations are that teams were held for about 8 hours at a hotel or less likely that there was an unshown hours of operation. That is less likely because teams would all get past such a HOO at approximately the same time, which does not look like what happened.
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