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AR14 Timelines, Timetables and Flight Information
Neobie:
Don't forget the racer sighting on LH3424! That flight departs from Munich at 9.30pm and arrives in Bucharest at 12.25am. There are no air connections between Munich and Salzburg; teams travelled overland to get to Munich. Which is strange - teams should be released morning of the 4th and should have had no problems getting any of Apskip's flights from Salzburg through Vienna to Bucharest. Did a clue send them away to Germany, or was there a weirdly-extended Pit Stop putting teams out of reach of even the last flight (at 6.25pm) from Salzburg?
There's something to occupy teams from the morning till after 5pm of the 4th of November (when there are better flights from both Salzburg and Munich), be it extra tasks or an extended Pit Stop. It winds up with at least some teams travelling overland to Munich.
Travelling through Frankfurt is possible, though on schedule LH3416 (8.45pm departing Frankfurt, 12.05am arriving Bucharest) it saves teams only twenty minutes. From Salzburg, teams could catch OS269 (6.30pm to 7.50pm) to Frankfurt; from Munich, it's LH981 (5.55pm to 7.05pm). This is only if teams miss the respective flights to Vienna for Apskip's flight: OS924 (6.25pm to 7.20pm) for Salzburg and LH6374 (5.15pm to 6.25pm) for Munich.
Another option for teams from Munich is through Brussels: SN2646 leaves Munich at 6.20pm, arrives Brussels 7.50pm. Change for RO374, departing Brussels 8.40pm, arriving Bucharest 12.25am. Once again, this is if teams miss LH981 from Munich to Vienna at 5.55pm. It saves absolutely no time from a direct flight, but maybe the seats were fully booked? Romaniafan's other teams must have got another flight somehow!
I've also looked at OK304 from Prague (arriving Bucharest 12.10am) and KL1361 from Amsterdam (12.30am), but Apskip's options through Vienna always seem the better option, be it from Munich or Salzburg. What could Romaniafan's other teams have come in on? Did TPTB ban Tarom?
I have a feeling that Switzerland to Salzburg is done by ground transportation... Apskip's train-bus-plane itinerary takes around 7 hours. Travelling by train from Locarno to Salzburg takes around 9. Probably worth TPTB to save that bit of money?
Random trivia: TAR has connected through Frankfurt for 10 out of the first 13 seasons, and it looks like the pattern's continuing into TAR14. We should so station a permanent spoiler stake-out there!
Chateau d If:
We know that they arrived at the Pit Stop in a fleet of Mercedes. So I suspect they will start the 3rd leg in those cars. The drive time from Salzburg to Munich is 1.5 hours while driving to Vienna takes 3 hours.
Having worked it backwards from Bucharest I would say that the lead teams opt for driving to Vienna:
Lead Teams Pit Stop release at (say) 3:00 pm
Drive 3 hours to Vienna
Fly RO 344 leaving at 7:55 pm and arriving at 10:35 pm in Bucharest
Trailing Teams Pit Stop release two hours later at 5:00 pm
Drive 1.5 hours to Munich
Fly LH 3424 leaving at 9:30 pm and arriving at 12:25 am
One thing that would help sort this out would be to ask Romaniafan's friend how certain they were that the two teams they saw were the only ones on board.
100% sure it's another buggared Pit Stop time :lol:
I should add that apskip's SZG VIE OS924 1825 1920 connecting to RO344 1955 2235 may have been a bust due to having too tight of a connection (35 minutes :ascared) or just not having enough seats.
Chateau d If:
I'm a little uncomfortable with driving to two different airports for car drop off so I looked harder at flights out of Salzburg.
Let say they leave from the Salzberg Pit Stop as early as 1 pm
They can take VO 265 leaving at 2:25 pm and arriving at 3:40 pm in Frankfurt or
They can take VO 269 leaving at 6:30 pm and arriving at 7:50 pm in Frankfurt
Then LH 3416 leaving FRA at 8:50 pm and arriving at 12:10 am in Bucharest
To get the known Munich flight to Bucharest
They can take VO 265 leaving at 2:25 pm and arriving at 3:40 pm in Frankfurt
Then LH 978 leaving FRA at 5:20 pm and arriving at 6:15 pm in Munich
Then LH 3424 leaving MUC at 9:30 pm and arriving at 12:25 am in Bucharest
apskip:
Let me start with some analysis of the above posts by Chateau and by Neobie. Given the sighting of the German-licensed vehicles, even though Salzburg is right on the border of Germany I doubt that those vehicles were picked up anywhere but Munich airport. The driving mileage to Salzburg from Munich airport (not Munich, which is about 15 miles less) is 85 miles. That means that Chateau's estimate of 1.5 hours will be closer to the schedule of the Lufthansa bus which goes between Munich airport and Salzburg airport, which is 2.5 hours.
Given the cars, flight into Munich from Zurich or Milan-Malpensa is the most likely alternative.
Flights Zurich to Munich
LX1100/LH5063 0710 0815
LX3616/LH3739 0845 0945
LX3618/LH3741 0930 1030
LX1104/LH5065 1215 1310
LX3620/LH3743 1310 1410
LX1108/LH5067 1535 1630
LX3622/LH3745 1735 1835
LX1110/LH5069 1905 2000
LX3624/LH2749 1950 2050
LX3626/LH3751 2050 2150
Flights from Milan-Malpensa to Munich
EN3911/LH3911 0710 0820
EN3897/LH3897 0850 1005
EN3899/LH3899 1115 1230
EN3901/LH3901 1300 1415
EN3933/LH3933 1505 1635
EN3905/LH3905 1705 1820
EN3907/LH3907 1920 2030
EN3909 LH3909 2100 2215
Also, given the cars and the flight schedule from Munich, the route from Salzburg to Bucharest is likely to be driving back to get LH3424 MUC OTP 2120 0025+1. Another possibility is to fly or drive to Vienna airport to connect with the flight VIE BUD connecting with BUD OTP but this arrives at 0125, well after the time frame of the sightings. Frankfurt, Amsterdam, and Brussels don't make much sense as origination points to get to Bucharest. Prague is an outside possiblity, with OK804 2125 0015+1. The rail schedules from Salzburg to Prague are dep.0908 arr.1653 or dep.1134 to arr.1853.
Chateau d If:
--- Quote ---Given the cars, flight into Munich from Zurich or Milan-Malpensa is the most likely alternative.
--- End quote ---
Apskip, I'm fully confused ! Your 2.5 hour Lufthansa bus look like the best option of them all! I can see them taking that from Salzburg to Munich and catching the known flight to Bucharest at 9:30 pm. They would not have to be released at 1 pm to do that. That bus allows for a later release time. When does it run?
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