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AR14 Timelines, Timetables and Flight Information
apskip:
--- Quote from: DrRox on April 24, 2009, 05:23:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on March 29, 2009, 06:33:21 PM ---
We were flying on an Air China/ANA code share from Beijing to Tokyo on the 21st of November, flight later ID’d as CA925/NH5702 0930-1350.
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So if they left Beijing on the morning of Nov 21st, would not they land in Hawaii on Nov 21st? With the international date line, you gain a day, ie, you get a one extra "Ground Hog Day," when going from Aisa to Hawaii. No?
--- End quote ---
Yes, of course you have it right. However, who says that they leave Nov. 22 from Beijing? Previous information put them departing (which would also mean landing) on Saturday Nov. 22.
DrRox:
--- Quote from: apskip on April 24, 2009, 02:10:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: DrRox on April 24, 2009, 05:23:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on March 29, 2009, 06:33:21 PM ---
We were flying on an Air China/ANA code share from Beijing to Tokyo on the 21st of November, flight later ID’d as CA925/NH5702 0930-1350.
--- End quote ---
So if they left Beijing on the morning of Nov 21st, would not they land in Hawaii on Nov 21st? With the international date line, you gain a day, ie, you get a one extra "Ground Hog Day," when going from Aisa to Hawaii. No?
--- End quote ---
Yes, of course you have it right. However, who says that they leave Nov. 22 from Beijing? Previous information put them departing (which would also mean landing) on Saturday Nov. 22.
--- End quote ---
As far as I know, you, apskip, are the only one that says they left on Nov 22nd. The blogger/spoiler says she was on the same flight with J/C and M/L on Nov 21st. After you go back and read Peach's post about her correspondence with the blogger, I guess you can always go back and "edit" all your timelines to match the Nov 21st departure from Beijing.
apskip:
Dr. Rox, as you may or may not know, I do not change Timelines to incorporate new pieces of "insider information" until I am darned well convinced that it is foolish not to. I did so for date of the Bangkok leg after there was enough evidence to make it quite likely that that was correct. I did the same on 1 vs. 2 legs in Switzerland. I am nowhere close to that on the question of Nov. 21 vs. Nov. 22. I believe the only relevant issue is the amount of above-12 hour (extended) pitstop time between starting the Guilin pitstop and leaving Beijing.
georgiapeach:
I think apskip has the 22 day race correct. 10/31 + 21 days in November.
But the Nov 21 flight date comes from a very accurate source...
And more to the point, we already have the finale date and location confirmed: (100%)
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg380845.html#msg380845
apskip:
--- Quote from: DrRox on April 24, 2009, 04:10:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on April 24, 2009, 02:10:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: DrRox on April 24, 2009, 05:23:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on March 29, 2009, 06:33:21 PM ---
We were flying on an Air China/ANA code share from Beijing to Tokyo on the 21st of November, flight later ID’d as CA925/NH5702 0930-1350.
--- End quote ---
So if they left Beijing on the morning of Nov 21st, would not they land in Hawaii on Nov 21st? With the international date line, you gain a day, ie, you get a one extra "Ground Hog Day," when going from Aisa to Hawaii. No?
--- End quote ---
Yes, of course you have it right. However, who says that they leave Nov. 22 from Beijing? Previous information put them departing (which would also mean landing) on Saturday Nov. 22.
--- End quote ---
As far as I know, you, apskip, are the only one that says they left on Nov 22nd. The blogger/spoiler says she was on the same flight with J/C and M/L on Nov 21st. After you go back and read Peach's post about her correspondence with the blogger, I guess you can always go back and "edit" all your timelines to match the Nov 21st departure from Beijing.
--- End quote ---
OK, so I traced my Timelines back for Feb. 6, which had the following:
--- Quote ---Nov. 18 leg 10 fly probably form Bangkok to to Guilin
Shenzen Air 9669 BKK CAN 2110 2225. The viable CAN KWL flights are TG668 0950 1330 and MS958 1310 1655.
tasks in Guilin area
extended pit stop
Nov. 20 leg 11 Guilin to Beijing flight choices:
CZ3281 0900 1125
CA6312 1145 1435
CZ3287 1710 1950
CA1226 2105 0015
then tasks in Beijing and start regular pitstop
Nov. 21 leg 12 return from Beijing to U.S. for Finish Line in Hawaii via Tokyo
PEK NRT on Air China has several choices:
CA6651/NH956 0845 1305
CA925 0930 1350
CA167 1350 1750
Continuing on from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu (NRT to HNL), there are 9 choices with departures between 645pm and 10pm. With the 6 hours 45 minute flying team and 5 hour time difference, these flights arrive HNL 0630 to 0950. The most logical choice to me would be UA880 NRT HNL 1925 0710+1. All these are same day due to crossing the International Date Line.
Finish Line on which Hawaiian island not known yet although I guess Oahu now for convenience
Note: this is a 22 day race.
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My timelines of 2/5 AND 2/6 incorporated the change to 22 days and to Nov. 21. I somehow copied an earlier version when I revised it on 2/13 and that has been promulgated for the last 70 days. So the Nov. 21 version is in fact right. I will be revising the timeline revision just issued to bring it back to what it should have been over this period. The extended pitstop may be in either Guilin or Beijing. it depends on when teams fly from Guilin to Beijing.
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