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walkingpneumonia:

--- Quote from: Pedaler on April 29, 2009, 08:21:57 PM ---Is there a disconnect somewhere?  Both Puddin and mwoden show the end date as Nov 22.  It makes sense to me that the racers would arrive in Maui a day before the end.  The lady who took the photo was waiting for their rental car.  I assume the racers were waiting for their transportation.

From Puddin :
--- Quote ---Nov. 22
leg 12 return from Beijing to U.S. for Finish Line in Hawaii via Tokyo
PEK to NRT:
JL780 0825 1255
NH956 0830 1300
NW30 0900 1340
CA925 0925 1355
CA167 1325 1800
NH906 1445 1915
JL782 1520 1950
CA421 1640 2100

NRT to HNL
JO76 1845 0645+1
UA880 1945 0736+1
NW30 2000 0805  Note that this is a continuation of the ealier flight from PEK to NRT with 6 hour 20 minute layover
NW22 2055 0845+1
NH1052 2055 0915+1
JO74 2100 0900+1
JO72 2200 1000+1

Continuing on from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu (NRT to HNL), there are 9 choices with departures between 645pm and 10pm. With the 6 hours 45 minute flying team and 5 hour time difference, these flights arrive HNL 0630 to 0950. The most logical choice to me would be UA880 NRT HNL 1925 0710+1. All these are same day due to crossing the International Date Line.

Finish Line on Maui, so teams will take a 36 or 37 minute flight Honolulu to Kahului or to Kapalua. There is at least one every hour from 5am to 9pm and several in some hours.
tasks
Finish Line
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From mwoden

--- Quote --- EP12: Beijing, China to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
Air Date: MAY 10
Film Date: NOV 22
Tasks:
[Route Info]: Fly to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
[Route Info]: Find Surfboard Fence
[Finish Line]: Kahili Golf Course (18th Green)
Evidence: Witness at Beijing airport spots Phil flying to Hawaii and “doublemint twins”, Maui confirmed as pitstop by CBS map
Possible Teams: Cara/Jamie, Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor
--- End quote ---

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Sorry if I'm confusing things - I was going by this post http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg380845.html#msg380845 which says the race ended on Nov 21 in Maui. Other posts contradict it I guess. Or are we dealing with the international date line incorrectly?

Where was the lady who took the photo from? East coast? West coast?

puddin:

--- Quote from: Pedaler on April 29, 2009, 08:21:57 PM ---Is there a disconnect somewhere?  Both Puddin and mwoden show the end date as Nov 22.  It makes sense to me that the racers would arrive in Maui a day before the end.  The lady who took the photo was waiting for their rental car.  I assume the racers were waiting for their transportation.

From Puddin :
--- Quote ---Nov. 22
leg 12 return from Beijing to U.S. for Finish Line in Hawaii via Tokyo
PEK to NRT:
JL780 0825 1255
NH956 0830 1300
NW30 0900 1340
CA925 0925 1355
CA167 1325 1800
NH906 1445 1915
JL782 1520 1950
CA421 1640 2100

NRT to HNL
JO76 1845 0645+1
UA880 1945 0736+1
NW30 2000 0805  Note that this is a continuation of the ealier flight from PEK to NRT with 6 hour 20 minute layover
NW22 2055 0845+1
NH1052 2055 0915+1
JO74 2100 0900+1
JO72 2200 1000+1

Continuing on from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu (NRT to HNL), there are 9 choices with departures between 645pm and 10pm. With the 6 hours 45 minute flying team and 5 hour time difference, these flights arrive HNL 0630 to 0950. The most logical choice to me would be UA880 NRT HNL 1925 0710+1. All these are same day due to crossing the International Date Line.

Finish Line on Maui, so teams will take a 36 or 37 minute flight Honolulu to Kahului or to Kapalua. There is at least one every hour from 5am to 9pm and several in some hours.
tasks
Finish Line
--- End quote ---

From mwoden

--- Quote --- EP12: Beijing, China to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
Air Date: MAY 10
Film Date: NOV 22
Tasks:
[Route Info]: Fly to Maui, Hawaii (USA)
[Route Info]: Find Surfboard Fence
[Finish Line]: Kahili Golf Course (18th Green)
Evidence: Witness at Beijing airport spots Phil flying to Hawaii and “doublemint twins”, Maui confirmed as pitstop by CBS map
Possible Teams: Cara/Jamie, Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor
--- End quote ---

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We were copying from apskips timeline, the 22nd, which was wrong but now has been fixed I take it.  :lol:. We know the race ended on the 21st  :umn:

puddin:

--- Quote from: walkingpneumonia on April 29, 2009, 04:03:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: puddin on April 29, 2009, 01:50:35 PM --- the photo data is DateTimeOriginal : 2008:11:21 17:41:15



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I'm confused now.
The race ended on Nov. 21 around 11 am ( http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg380845.html#msg380845 )
The photo was taken Nov. 21 at 5:41 pm
If the picture is post final mat then it really doesn't spoil anything. Its just a photo of various racers enjoying some down time after the race - waiting for a taxi or something. It doesn't tell us who the final 3 are at all.

Or am I missing something here?

--- End quote ---
Okay what if I just flat out tell you that no one in that photo is a part of the final 3?

Pedaler:

--- Quote ---We know the race ended on the 21st
--- End quote ---

Puddin, if that's true and the date on the camera is correct, then  possibly it's just a decoy photo and not a spoiler one.  A speculative time line could be pit stop at 11 am., film for an hour or two, then go to the airport, do some decoy stuff at the airport, and then fly to Honolulu for the night.  I don't think the racers would fly home that same day.

Seeing all of the Amazing Race paraphernalia out in the open if they were arriving  seems kind of strange.  Why call attention when it's not needed?

georgiapeach:
The race ended on the 21st.   If it helps, the camera may be set to California time.

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