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EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
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--- Quote from: DrRox on November 17, 2008, 02:58:44 PM ---Hello TAR Detectives,
What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.
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Falcons Fly Home by Modern Means
Javid Hassan, Arab News
RIYADH, 18 May 2004 — In an effort to reintroduce 41 falcons into their natural habitat, a special mission will take off today to air freight the birds to the Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan at the initiative of Prince Sultan, second deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation.
Veterinary Dr. Jamie Samour, medical director of Fahd ibn Sultan Falcon Center, told Arab News that the falcons are being released into a protected area of Kazakhstan, where they originally came from.
The birds belong to a species known as Saker, indigenous to that country and are worth between SR5,000 and SR500,000 each.
Last year, 28 birds were flown to Kazakhstan under what is known as the Prince Sultan Falcon Release Program in Central Asia. Most of the birds were donated to Prince Sultan by Saudi hunters.
Why would anyone want to use eagles or goshawks as falcons when Kazakhstan received a gift of a select small number (28) of real falcons 4 years ago?
puddin:
--- Quote from: DrRox on November 17, 2008, 02:58:44 PM ---Hello TAR Detectives,
What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.
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Welcome DrRox :hithere:. Moi knew it was a hunting eagle :sucks
georgiapeach:
Thanks puddin!!
Sounds like 10 centuries of well respected tradition to me:
Hunting with Golden Eagles is one of the most unique features of Kazakh life. The hunter is named kusbegi or berkutchi. The experience of wild bird training was gained by Kazakh kusbegi over centuries, the secrets being passed from the father to the son and kept secret. At the present time there are few people with such a name. These masters have an innate gift for training wild birds. For hunting they tame falcons, golden eagles and eagles. Names of birds are given depending on their appearance and battle characteristics. Hunting with Golden Eagles has been going on for ten centuries. To present a teenager with a nestling of a hunting bird was considered to wish to him to begin the courageous, strong dzhigit. To train a golden eagle is a high art. The caught bird gradually becomes accustomed to the owner. To do this, the berkutchi some nights doesn't close his eyes and prevents the golden eagle from sleeping. The bird can eat (bits of uncooked meat) only from the hands of the owner. Afterwards, the bird will get used to the hunter, his horse and dog, and the berkutchi begins to train it to hunt for stuffed fox; only after this the real hunting begins. Specially trained golden eagles hunt for small animals: rabbits, foxes, partridge, and black hazel grouses.
Chateau d If:
--- Quote ---The return flight LH648 left Moscow at 1320(your 1:20 pm is correct, just not for what you said) and arrived Almaty at 0110+1, 110am.
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I thought LH 648 was flying out of Frankfurt.
I think Terence & Sarah's trip from Moscow to Almaty made a stop in Istanbul. It's the only flight that lands in Almaty at 1:20 am. And we have the gate agent telling them that is the time when they land in Almaty.
Terence & Sara leaving May 9th "It will be landing in Almaty at 1:20 in the night."
Take Aeroflot SU 536 leaving DEL at 4:30 am and arriving in SVO Moscow at 9:30 am
Take Turkish Airlines TK 1414 leaving SVO at 1:40 pm and arriving in IST Istanbul at 3:55 pm
Take TK 1352 leaving IST at 5:00 pm and arriving in ALA at 1:20 am on May 10th
DrRox:
Thanks for the warm welcome!!!!
--- Quote from: apskip on November 17, 2008, 03:26:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: DrRox on November 17, 2008, 02:58:44 PM ---Hello TAR Detectives,
What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.
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Why would anyone want to use eagles or goshawks as falcons when Kazakhstan received a gift of a select small number (28) of real falcons 4 years ago?
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I was pretty aware of people in the US using perigrine falcons and goshawks for hunting. Some people even use snow owls too. Apparently, snow owls have a pretty unique ability to bend their wings when flying through trees in the winter time to hunt. I have seen nature documentaries about this in areas where there is lots of birch type tree forests. After doing some internet research last night and this morning, the term "falconry" seems to have become a pretty generic term for using birds of prey to hunt and not specific to using only "falcons". When I was watching last night, I was sort of shocked at the size of that bird. I mean, it was huge. It seems they use the golden eagles to hunt small animals, up to the size of roe deer. As stated above, over ten centuries of use of birds of prey in Central Asia. It also makes sense that they would develop ties with the Arab bedouins. The flat treeless terrane makes perfect use for using birds of prey to hunt food.
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