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EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Chateau d If:
--- Quote from: apskip on October 18, 2008, 05:39:54 PM ---Chateau, you have overlooked an important piece of evidence. That is my reporting of information collected from first-hand sources at Auckland International Airport stating:
Phil Keoghan flew out in the early hours of the next day (possibly 3rd of May) - 5am ish.
So if we believe that and obviously I do, it sure does point to your "timestamp" applying to May 1 at 405pm to 455pm(since the adjustment between May 2 and May 1 in your system is very small).
If Phil went through SantaCruz on April 29 (which is what the evidence indicates), he would have to get on either:
LAN967 1035 1625 to Santiago for LAN801 (SCL AKL 2245 0355+2) OR
5L210 1015 1500 to Buenos Aires for AR2801 (EZE AKL 2355 0500+2)
If he did not get to Santa Cruz in time to get on one of those, then there are no other options that I am aware of.
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I have no doubt that your source saw Phil at the airport. But on what day? Seriously, was it May 2nd or May 3rd? To me "possibly 3rd of May" means possibly being the 3rd of May. Which is when Phil would have caught a flight after eating at Burger Fuel at 5 pm on May 2nd.
There is a reason why the Burger Fuel clip could not have been made on May 1st and that is because the Teams have not yet arrived in Auckland. We know that they arrive on May 2nd. And Phil has told us that
"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
Which means he has already checked in all the teams at the time the clip was made. So that pins it down to May 2nd.
--- Quote ---Chateau, as to your contention that teams could have all finished up by 4pm, I have several comments:
1. See the Bonnie Hunt Show information, source Phil Keoghan about how he and his dad were at the pitstop for more than 10 hours.
2. The first teams could not have gotten to the pitstop before 11am in my analysis of the different tasks in New Zealand.
3. Phil and his dad might have gotten there an hour or two early, so let's say possibly as early as 9am.
4. Add 10 hours at a minimum and you get 7pm.
5. If the last team finished by anytime after 4pm near Te Puke, it still take 2 hours or more to return to Auckland. If this case were real (it isn't for the reasons cited above), Phil could not get that burger before 6pm.
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If the ten hour Pit Stop occupancy is true and fully accurate then I would say Phil started his Pit Stop timer at 4 am and ended it at 2 pm. Drove the 2 hours to Auckland and started his clip. So that would make the last team arriving at about 2 pm. We have Teams expected to be arriving in Auckland at 3:55 am. And if the flight is half and hour or an hour early then the arrival could be as early as 2:55 am. Teams could have a clue waiting for them on the provided cars. That clue could contain the Fast Forward instructions. The lead team could get to the SkyCity Tower as early as 3:30 am. They could complete it by 3:50 am. They could drive to the Pit Stop by 5:50 am. Maybe Phil just needs to be there 2 hours ahead as a matter of production protocol. I think it fits as a possibility. I bet the FF team does not get there until 9 am. I say that because we know Matt filmed the FF in use at 6:51 am. But still, Phil may have to be at the Pit Stop much earlier than the lead teams.
Mrs Shrek:
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on October 19, 2008, 12:54:30 AM ---Maybe Phil just needs to be there 2 hours ahead as a matter of production protocol.
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Phil has said before that there have been times where he is actually racing the teams to the mat, so I don't think a 2 hr lead would always be possible.
makz3d:
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on October 19, 2008, 12:54:30 AM ---...
There is a reason why the Burger Fuel clip could not have been made on May 1st and that is because the Teams have not yet arrived in Auckland. We know that they arrive on May 2nd. And Phil has told us that
"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
Which means he has already checked in all the teams at the time the clip was made. So that pins it down to May 2nd.
...
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I've watched and rewatched that portion of the video diary. I feel that the Burger Fuel stop was before the mat check in. I let the video play out and Phil states that his dad WILL be the greeter and "Later that day..." Phil is recorded waiting at the mat with his dad. I'm suspecting they fueled up as Phil had been informed there would be a long wait at the mat without being able to go for a meal (the peanuts).
This is just my opinion on when the Burger Fuel clip was made.
georgiapeach:
--- Quote from: makz3d on October 19, 2008, 04:26:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on October 19, 2008, 12:54:30 AM ---...
There is a reason why the Burger Fuel clip could not have been made on May 1st and that is because the Teams have not yet arrived in Auckland. We know that they arrive on May 2nd. And Phil has told us that
"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
Which means he has already checked in all the teams at the time the clip was made. So that pins it down to May 2nd.
...
--- End quote ---
I've watched and rewatched that portion of the video diary. I feel that the Burger Fuel stop was before the mat check in. I let the video play out and Phil states that his dad WILL be the greeter and "Later that day..." Phil is recorded waiting at the mat with his dad. I'm suspecting they fueled up as Phil had been informed there would be a long wait at the mat without being able to go for a meal (the peanuts).
This is just my opinion on when the Burger Fuel clip was made.
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I have to say that I interpreted this also as meaning "before the teams arrive here in NZ" and "before I have to get ahead of them as in, I need to beat them to the Pitstop."
Are we sure about the Matt filming the Pitstop as it occured? ???
I thought he was filming the setup and some of the staff fooling around....
makz3d:
I've read the messages and watched the videos.
For the Maori warriors Dan and Andrew are clean with hair combed.
Later that day they are at the blokart sailing and very dirty and disheveled.
Anyone think Frats went to Kiwi360 first and then left to do Blokart?
It's best to see the dirty clothes by watching the 1st preview at CBS using full screen. The smaller screens through this thread do not show the dirt as distinctive.
I am so confused. I've been over and over the messages and can't get things straight in my mind.
:duno: :didimiss: :duno:
I think Ken and Tina do FF. Doing the FF puts them 10 hrs ahead of the last team to the mat. Is there a bunching at the airport to negate the FF advantage?
It's a NEL and afterwards the Blondes get in trouble.
They were all on the same plane. Blondes are at Maori warriors. So how could Blondes mess up after the Maori enough to put them a day behind?
Am I so mixed up I have the Blondes' mess up in the wrong episode?
My best bet is to just go to bed (work nights) and forget about all this till tonight's episode.
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