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EP4:10/19 "I Wonder If They Like Blondes in New Zealand?"
Kiwi Jay:
Taken a look at Google Map.
Mt Eden has the rock wall that Kelly and Christy stand by. The spit seen in the Kelly and Christy roadblock photo is definitely Devonport and the mountain volcano beside it is definitely Rangitoto Island. My father believes that it probably is One Tree Hill because of the rock wall but is confused by the angle. Could be wrong though! Could be Mt Eden though probably not since there isnt a rock wall and even Mt Albert too!
I know peach stated this but I am backing it up
2 hours is roughly guys unsure how true that is!
I was overlooking Papamoa Hills and it does look the same as the pitstop shot. I am not making any promises because I dont want to let anybody down.
And stomping grapes is done all the time in NZ. Not stomping Kiwifruit, so I am looking forward to that!!!
Kiwi
Chateau d If:
--- Quote ---The burger visit (which was with his father) was in Auckland and probably the day before.
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Apskip, in general, the assumed date that I use is just for astronomical purposes. It only needs to be within two or three days to make few minutes difference in the shadow positions. So the exact date I use really does not matter for the level of (or lack of) precision that I come up with in my time estimates.
But now that you have opened the date question, let's look at that. As Slowhatch noted, Phil's exact words are
"I've got a little separation between...when the teams get here and when I have to get ahead of them so..."
That says to me that Phil is talking about the time between when teams get to the place where he is and the time when he has to leave to get ahead of them. The place where he is: 'here' in his delivery, probably means New Zealand in general but, in all accuracy, we know that he means the Pit Stop location in particular. And by 'when I have to get ahead of them' he is referring to his need to be at the next Pit Stop location after New Zealand.
With those equivalences in mind I can rewrite what Phil says as:
"I've got a little separation between the time when the teams get to the New Zealand Pit Stop and when I have to leave for the next Pit Stop so..."
It makes it clear that he is talking about the block of time that starts when the last of the Teams have checked in to the New Zealand Pit Stop and ends when he has to leave in order to catch his flight sequence to the next Pit Stop location. We know that the Teams must check into the New Zealand Pit Stop on May 2nd. We do not know when they check in. Where is the proof that the last team checks in at 7:00 pm? Lacking anything solid on last team check in times I would say that Phil's clip very well could have been taken on May 2nd. The next day, May 3rd, would also be consistent with the time time block defined by Phil's statement. However, there is piece of strong evidence in Matt's photo collection that make it impossible for the clip to have been made on May 3rd. Matt took pictures of Phil in the very early (near sunrise) hours of May 4th while Phil was in a boat in the floating village near Siem Reap. And, from my own flight figuring a few months ago I learned that the best flight sequence from Auckland to Siem Reap on May 3rd left at 4:55 pm and arrived at 7:05 am on the 4th. That best possible flight sequence would not get Phil to the standup in time.
So I think Phil had to have taken an earlier flight sequence than May 3rd 4:55 pm. He may even have made the flight on the evening of the 2nd right after finishing the Bastard Burger.
Bottom line is that, I predict that, this timestamp of 4:05 to 4:45 pm will provide the clue that all Teams have checked in well ahead of 4 pm on May 2nd.
--- Quote ---Phil did not have to depart on April 30 from Santiago with the teams. He could have hustled to LaPaz airport after the morning pitstop checkins were complete and caught LAN965 LPB SCL 1245 1745 and gone trans-South Pacific on the night of April 29 arriving early morning on May 1.
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No need to speculate on this because we already have a spoiler witness telling us Phil was waiting for his flight on April 29th at VVI.
michael:
I don't think Marisa and Brooke have to be eliminated after final 6 to be decoys. The teams are flown in from sequester before the date of the finale obviously, and maybe the production thought that since they stood out so much (being blond and all) they would catch the most attention? So they got sent on a decoy run instead of sitting in a hotel waiting for the morning of the finish line.
Belle Book:
--- Quote from: elopes on October 17, 2008, 02:50:36 PM ---Casting my vote that it's Ken and Tina who do the FF... and why would the girls be a whole day behind? They're not leaving Bolivia that much behind everyone else...
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I can guess a combination of two situations. Let's say that they get on a particular flight and something delays the flight so that they fall behind. And then, if the spoiler indicating that a team misses a bus is any indication, maybe they're the team that misses a bus and they fall so far behind that they get eliminated (and are totally humiliated in front of Phil's dad in the process, poor women).
Belle Book
apskip:
--- Quote from: Michael on October 18, 2008, 11:38:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on October 18, 2008, 10:01:45 AM ---beau_30, I have one right off the top. In AR11 the villa in Acapulco only took 5 teams. Since it is the same sequestervile including the same villa (Casa Legouia which I attempted to find information on but failed), it is logical to assume that its capacity has not increased. There will be the same number of teams(5) there, not 6 teams. It should be remembered that the fourth and fifth teams are goig to have to cross the Pacific Ocean to reach Elimination Station. In AR11, the first four teams were eliminated in South America and the fifth (Ian/Teri) had to fly a much shorter distance across the Atlantic Ocean. I think there is a possibility that teams in episodes 4, 5 and 6 might go somewhere other than Acapulco that was near Portland OR rather than all the way down to Acapulco.
EDITOR's NOTE - please note the rather significant alterations.
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isn't it common knowledge that the teams 6-4 just travel with production until the final city? --unless I made that up :duno:
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No, Michael what is tradition is that the "middle set"(eliminated episodes 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8) of teams are split into two groups. One group goes to a sequester and is not typically used as decoys. The other group, usually the ones eliminated in ep. 6, 7 and 8, does traditionally travel with the teams up until one day before the finish and would be more readily available for decoy work. Your teams 4-6 would equate roughly to the teams eliminated in episodes 6, 7 and 8. You are talking apples (final finish order) and I am talking oranges. My point was that those eliminated in episodes 4, 5 and maybe 6 might be sent somewhere on the eastern end of the Pacific Ocean. That still leaves up to 2 teams for decoy work.
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