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Jobby:
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--- Quote from: amazing race fan on February 05, 2011, 10:39:29 PM ---The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
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Also, certain teams(perhaps originally intended to be alternates) were there in All-Stars because other teams were'nt available. (Colin & Christie, Flo & Drew?, Wil .etc)
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Placement of teams is true, but none of the teams besides the cowboys, herb and nate and Margie and Luke came across as competitive teams this season. All the others had their fair share of really bad legs or either, eliminated early. In fact, Cowboys came in last on a NEL and Herb and Nate nearly got eliminated in Dubai. So basically, the only literally "strong team" who has performed well throughout their season and made the finale would only be Margie and Luke.
The rest are all fairly strong teams.. but there have been really strong teams who have not been invited back, so how does that count? Where's Jill and Thomas, Terence and Sarah and Ken and Tina, who remains to be one of the few teams on TAR to do a hat trick by winning 3 legs in a row.
The theme for this season is simple, you just have to make an impression, for the producers to like you and an interesting team storyline, didn't win the race AND AVAILABLE FOR THE RACE in order to be picked. There you go, you have UB teams. :)
And of course, the producers must have deemed TAR 14 as one of their best seasons to invite back 5/11 teams? :lol:
redskevin88:
my gut feeling, and this is only a gut feeling, was that producers considered the TAR 13 season to be a
"filler" season because of the Writer's Strike and thus, does not really count to what the producers consider "canonical" and thus, ignored the season... the tasks seemed "stale" and "recycled" and they seemed to quickly fill the cast, with no balance.
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--- Quote from: amazing race fan on February 05, 2011, 10:39:29 PM ---The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
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What about the AR18 inclusion of Mel and MIke? That's about the equivalent of putting David and Mary in AR11 for their popularity only.
Also, I know some will not agree with this, but I consider Nate and Herb to be a team of only moderate performance. I also consider Gary/Mallory to be a popular team who had only moderate performance.
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amazing race fan:
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--- Quote from: slayton on February 05, 2011, 12:37:58 AM ---Go and watch the TAR7 DVD set and you'll hear Phil say that it was the pilot who decided to let Uchenna & Joyce on.
Didn't Rob & Amber also get in a cab first out of the airport in Miami?
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Do you really think Phil will admit that they altered the game that much? Regardless who made the decision to let them on, it was very lucky.
It does not matter who got into a cab in Miami first. Rob and Amber had a driver who didn't speak spanish, and Uchenna and Joyce had a driver who spoke spanish and knew the location. They got lucky with that also.
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My question for you is why watch TAR if you don't even trust your own host and producers? I guess none of the seasons will be good enough for you since if the producers rigged TAR7, they most likely rigged every other race IYO?
I just find it unacceptable that people till this day, still believe that the producers rigged the show so that Uchenna and Joyce win the race? Hello, then i think they would have rigged the race many times for more popular teams to win?? (Dustin and Kandice, Kris and Jon??) :groan:
And of course, Dustin and Kandice did deserve to win Allstars, but the fact remains that they didn't and Danielle's gossipy attitude allowed her to share almost all her feelings/thoughts/emotions with allowed him to read her accurately.
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I didn't say that the producers rigged the show for them to win, but I think they rigged the show to make it more competitive at the end. If Rob and Amber were the only team to make that plane, and they were ahead by 30 minutes when they got to Miami, the winner would already be known. By letting Uchenna and Joyce on the plane, it made it more competitive at the end. I can 100% assure you that the pilot didn't say, Why don't we wait 10 minutes for any people that might be late? Planes don't work like that. If you are even 1 minute late, they don't let you on the plane. There were exceptions made for Uchenna and Joyce. There is no doubt about it. If anyone here does not think that BVM and CBS alter the show to make it more entertaining, than you are just naive about TAR.
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Yes, they do alter the show. By editing
Case in point- In TAR 6, during a run to the Pit Stop, Victoria seemed to catch sight of Hayden and Aaron behind them, however, departure times for the next leg showed a roughly half hour difference.
But it really doesn't matter. If words from the pilot himself aren't enough for you, I doubt you even believe that the entire race isn't scripted.
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I don't believe it entirely. Planes are not just held for regular people. If you have some special celebrity status or something like that, than you might have a plane held for you. The excuse about the plane was malfunctioning was just a cover up.
amazing race fan:
--- Quote from: AmazingRace on February 06, 2011, 12:43:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: amazing race fan on February 05, 2011, 10:39:29 PM ---The placement of the teams is true, but in my opinion you just have much stronger teams in the second version of All-Stars. Placement in your season isn't everything. Obviously some teams definitely deserved to be on the All Stars based on their placement in their previous season, like Dustin and Kandice, Team Cha-Cha-Cha, Romber, Team Guido, and Uchenna and Joyce. Some teams were strictly put on to make ratings go up, like David and Mary and Charla and Mirna. Eric and Danielle I understand because Eric came in second place, and they met on the race. The rest just don't bring high ratings and are not ultra competitive. On the second version of All Stars, you don't see teams like John Vito and Jill, Kevin and Drew and Terri and Ian. Sure, all of those teams did well on their seasons, but there is nothing special about them, that would make them an All-Star caliber team. To Clarify, Terri and Ian did place well on their season, but their age definitely played a factor on All Stars.
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Also, certain teams(perhaps originally intended to be alternates) were there in All-Stars because other teams were'nt available. (Colin & Christie, Flo & Drew?, Wil .etc)
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I agree if all teams were available, than season 11 and 18 would be pretty even. The difference between 18 is that, every team that we thought deserved to be on season 18 was. Lets say if Jet and Cord, FT and BE and Margie and Luke were not available, than season 11 would be stronger. The difference is that every originally intended team, maybe with the exception of Brook and Claire, was available to be on another season.
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