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The Mole 5.0 *Ongoing Clue Analysis and Challenge Discussions*
Cincy-David:
Hi Everyone
I am a first time poster. I really beleive that Craig is the Mole and here are all my reasons why. Some of these are collected from prior posters here, I just happen to agree and combined them all together. For me the most damming is the 495 Widget clue from last night, at the end of my list.
Here is a recap of my major clues that point to Craig
In episode 1 The #11 journal is spotlighted. The 11th person in the introductions was Craig.
There was a mobile clue of NIC @ IT translated to NICATIT. "TITANIC"? maybe??? On the boat to the scavenger game Craig is standing in front with his arms out like in the movie
Then in episode 3 it was Craig who suggested Bobby ride in the wheelbarrow. What better way for a mole to slow down his team and yet it all falls on Bobby's shoulders for being a whimp.
In the episode with the Nic@It clue, they referred to the dinner as the Last dinner. Connect Leonardo DaVinci to Leonardo Di Caprio from Titanic and it still points to Titanic and Craig.
JAIME on the side of a building:
Jaime is a variant of James and means "supplanter". Supplant means: to supersede (another) especially by force or treachery. Treachery, much like a mole would do. In Spanish, Jaime and James are both variants of the name Diego. As in San Diego where Craig is from.
On the waterfall challenge: Is when Craig says "dude, one thing at a time who cares if we're staying here or not we're jumping over a frickin waterfall, god! ********WHO CARES WHERE YOU'RE SLEEPING****************" Why would he mention where they were sleeping BEFORE Jon Kelley told them that Marcie had to choose where they slept?
During the scavenger hunt game, the host mentioned that Robinson Crusoe was based on Alexander Selkirk. If you google that name you will find that his name at birth was Alexander Selcraig. Pretty big coincidence there.
Episode one internet clue: E_E_E_
After going over the waterfall Craig said: "the rope just goes taut and chokes me like a hanged man. E_E_E_ = hangman
Craig has been constantly wearing his glasses, but he did not have them when they arrived for the pig challenge and did not have them the entire time. He did have them back on later though. Maybe they are just clear lenses and doesn't really need them? This could be lying with his eyes (another internet clue).
The text clue of "heart" is mentioned in Craig's bio on the website. It says, "He is a lovable prankster with a big heart, and his magnetic personality has gotten him through life."
There might be another clue that points to Craig. In the first episode intro Craig is the only one without any type of graphics(the circly things) next to his name or hometown. The text doesn't change either. Plus he's a graphic artist. That might be something that's not so obvious so maybe that's a clue. In all subsequnet episodes, it is back to normal.
On the Laundry challenge I also picked up on something that I thought might have been a clue. Craig was wearing a skeleton key around his neck at the spa. The lockers had combinations and I'm sure the hotel doesn't use skeleton keys. When he "discovered" the Dry Cleaners it was right next door to a Locksmith
HEre is a photo from Episode Two. The picture clearly says MOLE and the number above the calculator is the year Craig is born.
Someone said the Mole's color is red. Is this true? I don't know being that this is the first time I've watched the show. Craig is always wearing red, from his tennies, to his tie, to the upcoming episode and the ski beanie. Wouldn't that be a little too obvious if the other players know this tidbit?
Episode 2 Text Clue: cf(11)8 = See if 11 ate.
Craig didn't eat due to being sick... and he is linked to "11"
Another Text Clue
just thinking that if you still use the numerical value then:
2 3 4
7 1 5
23-15 = 8
7 - 4 = 3
8 + 3 = 11 11+ Craig
Handwriting - In the Moles Journal, all of the handwriting uses a goofy little apostrophe mark that looks suspiciously like the number 11. Craig is journal 11 and one of the original journals that still exist.just thinking that if you still use the numerical value then:
In the first journal entry the passport in the upper left has many entries of travel... the only person that would need to travel that much is someone like Craig...... in his bio on ABC.com reads "Craig has traveled extensively and worked as a humanitarian disaster relief aide worker in Turkey and Thailand."
in the mole journal on the page with the grape stains, above his note, there is 3 $10 bills...10 + 10 + 10=30
craig is 30 years old
Have you noticed that they never show a result for Craig's quiz.
From Episode 5 This N20 couls stnad for November 20, which is Craigs Birthday
And of course, my most recent discovery. Last nights Widget clue was simply the number 495. If you take the first five numbers that Clay and Nicole entered into the computer on the counting mission, they come to 495. However, iit was Craing who came up with these numbers, Nicole had originally entered some other number and Craign had to correct her. This directly points to Craig.
molenewbie:
Wow!!!! Thanx for ripping all of us off Cincy_David. Your real smart
molenewbie:
Inserts foot in mouth****** :hearts: Peace love and welcome cincy-David.... its always good to read the beginning before jumping to the end haha Sorry. I just saw one of the clues i picked up and thought the worst!!! I am so sorry and honored that you agree with one of my clues.
Molecule:
--- Quote from: Cincy-David on July 22, 2008, 11:15:28 PM ---And of course, my most recent discovery. Last nights Widget clue was simply the number 495. If you take the first five numbers that Clay and Nicole entered into the computer on the counting mission, they come to 495. However, iit was Craing who came up with these numbers, Nicole had originally entered some other number and Craign had to correct her. This directly points to Craig.
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I was just logging on to add this after seaching the eppy for "495" all evening! You beat me to it! lol Nice math work Cincy!!!! :yess:
I'm not sure about who came up with the numbers btwn Craig and Nicole (I think they both did), but I do know Craig tried to screw up Clay's discovery of the puzzle twice. When adding 144 + 89 he first got 232. Then at the very last few seconds he throws in 231 while for the last minute they've all been practically screaming 233.
Mole-ish for sure. Is he? I dunno. I keep remembering how they all want to look suspicious too in order to be voted for as the Mole and thus get the others executed.
Knuckles' following find appears to be correct with Clay leaving after Alex. That leaves either Nicole or Paul to be executed next:
--- Quote from: knuckles487 on July 19, 2008, 10:25:34 PM ---The clue card for episode 6.
At about the same time on the ABC board, 2 guys made the same post containing a shot from Marks journal. So thanks to fallingatlas and tcntk for this.
You can see from this that Mark was meticulously keeping track of possible sabotage chances regarding each player. Up to that point in the show there had been 10 missions, and he recorded his thoughts of each player using a "1" if he thought they did something that could be considered sabotage, "0" if he thought they didn't, and a "?" if he wasn't sure.
You can see the players names at the left side of each line, and they are listed alphabetically. The totals from the 10 missions is listed in parenthases at the right side of each line.
Al = Alex (3-3-4)
Cl = Clay (6-3-1)
Cr = Craig (4-2-4)
Kr = Kristen gone
Ni = Nicole (2-4-4)
Paul = Paul (2-4-4)
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knuckles487:
--- Quote from: Nightstalker on July 22, 2008, 03:25:39 PM ---
No offense but THIS is what I'm talking about when I say that some people are thinking about this waaaaaaaaaaay too much. Name one clue on one season of The Mole where a clue has involved this much examination? Counting spaces, replacing letters, come on. Take a step back and consider how ridiculous it is. With enough guessing and moving things around a person can virtually make any clue point to any person if they try that hard and are that determined to make a clue point to the person that they want.
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Offense? Why would I take offense? I went back and looked at each post you have made for the past month and except for a couple, each one was simply responding to a poster telling them why THEIR post was wrong and/or ridiculous. So why would I take offense because it was my turn? I will take this time though to point out something. You have mentioned numerous times that you believe the moles journal to be the best source of clues, but that seems to be provided we use excerpts that you have decided must be a clue. Otherwise, the comments in the journal are just as silly and useless as you have decided some posters theories to be. Personally, I don't put much stock in the moles journal and prefer to use what I see in the episodes as well as the clues put out by ABC. We do know those ARE clues even though we may not have been able to solve them, or maybe not even have solved them correctly.
Like you, I don't agree with every theory or suggestion that comes along, but I keep it to myself and instead concentrate on those that I believe to be of value. Being a hard core Craig is the Mole fan, of course most of what I post will be what I consider to be evidence that might help confirm that. I don't remember any on this site although there could be, but there has been occasion when I have posted something in an effort to disprove a theory being proposed about another player if I think I have a valid argument against it, and not to disagree with their theory just for the sake of disagreement.
From your previous posts, you say that Victoria was one of your main suspects, then when she was executed you switched to Clay. You were 100% sure Clay was the mole, with Paul as a backup. Why a backup if you were so sure? Now that he is gone, Paul is your mole. I COULD say that relying on the moles journal hasn't exactly provided you a very good track record, but I won't. If that's what you want to depend on the most then more power to you.
Now, you asked for one clue from one season that involved this much examination. There have been no HARD clues to solve in the past but that is because there has been no previous web clues from ABC before. We have only had clues that the producers included in the episodes and opening credits. Most of those were pretty lame......Anderson holding up Katherines bag, eating an apple, picture of a ship, MickeyD, etc. In the six years since the last real mole (celebrity moles don't count because they were pathetic), the internet has become more prevalent in interactive use and is now being utilized to provide the viewer a more involved level of participation with the show.
I agree that clues included within the episodes themselves are relatively simple, subtle, and easy to figure out. For instance, Craig was wearing a key......he found the players clothes next to a key shop. Easy and simple enough for you?
The clues given by ABC on their website are a different matter. To begin with, not everyone that watches the show cares enough to visit the site to even see them. Of the ones that do, only a small percentage of those people care enough to spend more than a few minutes trying to figure out what they mean. Those clues are going to be harder to solve than the subtleties we are given in the show. For instance, s666 - LIAr.
To paraphrase you from a previous post.....Sorry if this sounds condescending, that is not my intention. I'm just trying to post something that will help.
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