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The Mole 5.0 *Ongoing Clue Analysis and Challenge Discussions*

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virushunter981:

--- Quote from: molenewbie on June 18, 2008, 11:31:41 PM ---And there is something I dont get about the Grades clue. If they are the grades of the individual player then why is it that the the C's aren't leaving together. like if they were grades then why is it that someone with a C grade is sent home arbitrarily? Are there degrees? And im sure the lowest score wouldnt just be a C. 

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Plus, I'm not entirely sure that they are true grades.  I think that it's just a general amount of questions (i.e. 7-10 right: A, 4-6 right: B, 0-3 right: C).

And gingerman28, I never thought of it that way...  Hmm.  Something new to think about

washburn927:

--- Quote from: virushunter981 on June 18, 2008, 09:39:02 PM ---Hi, everybody.  I'm new here, but I already have some suspicions of the Mole.  I think that the Mole is Paul.  If the second web clue (ABCBB ACCBCA) is the grades, then that leaves Clay and Paul as Mole candidates, since the Mole will get every answer right.  In the first episode, Jon says, "Eat, drink, be merry, and treat it like it's your last supper."  Now some people may single Mark out as the Mole.  But few know that St. Paul also wrote an account of the Last Supper in his letter to the Corinthians.  This also relates to the religious aspects of the show.  He lives in Yonkers, which is mainly populated by Italian-Americans.  That way, the Italia shirt would make sense.  The religion also fits here because Vatican City, the capital of Christianity, is in Italy. What makes him such a good Mole (in my opinion) is that he tries to act like a really good contestant.  The online clue (s666-LIAr) does two things.  1:  Singles out Ali as the next one leaving (grapes only rules out Bobby, who was executed).  2: Gives 666, the mark of the beast, another biblical symbol.  There are a few interpretations of this, some leading to Victoria, Alex, and Mark.  But the grades make me think Paul.  I'm not sure what to think of E_E_E_, but it may stand for eleven.  If we look on the bios page on the official site, we see the Paul is the 11th one listed.

Well, those are my suspicions.

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I like your ideas. Those would also fit with the Gustav Eiffel clue. As I mentioned, Eiffel gave the statue of liberty to the U.S, which is currently in NY, the place where Paul is from.

knuckles487:

--- Quote ---I think that the Mole is Paul.
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I've discounted Paul as the mole for several reasons but the main one is this.

On the execution quiz for episode 2, question 7.  The question is:

7.  In "When Pigs Fly" what did the mole do after returning from Pomaire?
A.  Catch pigs.
B.  Hold one end of the slingshot handle.
C.  Load pigs and shoot slingshot.
D.  Nothing.


Answer A would refer to Paul and Liz since they both caught pigs, but the problem is that neither of them WENT TO Pomaire, so neither of them could RETURN from there.

A better option for A would have been "The mole did not go to Pomaire".


I realize this is just an oversight and a goof on the part of the production people, but if Paul were actually the mole they would have paid better attention to that question and had a more appropriate option.



Now something to think about for this week.  On the ABC site they have some behind the scenes clips each week.  This week one of them is of the production staff trying to get a confessional out of Alex.  He is pretty upset and keeps cussing the cameraman, flipping them off, saying the other players are acting like babies, saying he is ready to leave the show, get his cellphone and call someone that gives a $%#&, etc.

Not the exact wording but one of the advertising lines for this week says that the best liked player suddenly becomes the least liked.

We know that CBS plays up evberything that happens on survivor, it's always the most dramatic, most unbelievable, most shocking, best player, etc etc.  So I have no trouble whatsoever seeing ABC doing the same thing with "best liked player" and mean Alex even though I don't think that he would actually fit that description.  Some of the others do seem to like him since they have shown a clip on the show, and another behind the scenes clip of Alex singing for some of the women and for Paul, so they could refer to him as the best liked.

Since Alex is already highly upset about something and talking about heading home it is very easy for me to see him blow up this week over some incident, piss off the other players, and then tank the test so he can go home. 

(no spoilers in this thread please thanks, puddin)


Sorry this had to be edited puddin.  I didn't realize I had included something from a spoiler.  Now if I can just remember what I wrote that was changed. 

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molenewbie:

--- Quote from: knuckles487 on June 20, 2008, 06:00:33 AM ---

--- Quote ---I think that the Mole is Paul.
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I've discounted Paul as the mole for several reasons but the main one is this.

On the execution quiz for episode 2, question 7.  The question is:

7.  In "When Pigs Fly" what did the mole do after returning from Pomaire?
A.  Catch pigs.
B.  Hold one end of the slingshot handle.
C.  Load pigs and shoot slingshot.
D.  Nothing.


Answer A would refer to Paul and Liz since they both caught pigs, but the problem is that neither of them WENT TO Pomaire, so neither of them could RETURN from there.

A better option for A would have been "The mole did not go to Pomaire".





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Or it could be D. You know as like a trick question.

Rabbit:

--- Quote ---Not the exact wording but one of the advertising lines for this week says that the best liked player suddenly becomes the least liked.
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Couldn't that be referring to the previews where it shows Mark having a fit and saying "they're sadistic" then taking off? He seems incredibly upset over something and i would think Mark would be more of a best liked player than arrogant Alex.

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