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puddin:
I did some digging.........


--- Quote from: Neobie on June 07, 2008, 07:56:36 AM ---Bertram, Phil and Hayma Washington are on G3 1600 on the morning of the 23rd, leaving Rio at 10.30am and arriving Salvador at 12.30pm? (We were talking about this back on Page 15.) The two-letter airline code doesn't match, but AA, AH, HA and HH yield flights in Detroit, Algeria, Iceland and Germany respectively.

The race stared on the 22nd. Phil does not even have time to set foot in Sao Paulo, let alone eliminate a team there. Salvador belongs in Leg One!


At the top left corner, Matt leaves Salvador on the 25th on JJ 3179 to Sao Paulo to get to Auckland on the 27th, through Santiago or Buenos Aires. JJ 3895 and LA 5229 for Fred Meyer and Brent Benedetti also get to Sao Paulo, and I have no idea why they need to take separate flights.

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georgiapeach:

--- Quote from: georgiapeach on June 23, 2008, 08:10:11 PM ---...
I reviewed the blog itself and you know what? The blog was posted on 4/26 but as far as I can tell we DO NOT actually have the date itself listed  in the sighting! Unless we can can find out which day had fog delays? I think we assumed the 24th but maybe we aren't right...

From newman 44 at this forum :
My friends have been living in Brazil for the last few months and this is an excerpt from her blog posted on April 26th:

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For those of you who are unfamiliar with the reality TV show, The Amazing Race, it is a competition where people travel all over the world in a hectic rat race to come in first and win the big prize. I..m actually not all that familiar with the show myself but I..m pretty sure they were on my airplane.

This situation happened completely by chance. From Cordoba, we were to have a stop over in Porto Alegre another stop in Sao Paulo and then arrive in Salvador in the afternoon. Because of fog, the airport in Porto Alegre was closed, so we had to detour to Rio and from there, fly to Salvador, which was actually much more efficient and convenient.

At the airport in Rio, we noticed several film crews and people in teams of two, often wearing matching outfits. These two girls from Texas (according to their t-shirts anyway) were wearing matching black biker shorts, bright pink tank tops and a ton of make-up. I think the t-shirt was pretty accurate. Anyway, we noticed them being interviewed by the film crews, acting out dramatic situations and so-on. When it came time to board we talked to some of them and lent one of them our brazil book, although they didn..t give us many details about what they were doing. There was a delay in taking off and one team asked if they could move closer to the front. As soon as they did, all the other contestants tried to do the same. It was kind of annoying becuase I think it delayed our take-off even more. Anyway, at that point, we were pretty confident that if it wasn..t The Amazing Race, it was an amazing race of some sort.
 
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--- Quote ---I am trying to confirm the dates but this might take awhile...

Assuming we were wrong about the 24th--would this work?? Building on Neobie's:


Day One - April 22 (confirmed - sightings in Los Angeles & Chicago)
Depart morning from Los Angeles, half connect through Chicago
Travel via Sao Paulo (for some?)  (I also like the idea of looking for a departure time--something similar to the beach tasks we saw before in a previous season as Chateau suggested)
Day Two - April 23
Some Transit Rio en route to Salvador-- arr Salvadore >>Day 1 of Salvador tasks>> Hours of Ops??
Day Three - April 24
Salvador Elevator task>>Pitstop
Day Four - April 25 (confirmed - Nivaldo spoiler)
Depart Salvador in the morning for Fortaleza
Fortaleza Pit Stop in the afternoon
Day Five - April 26
Extended Pit Stop
Day Six - April 27
Depart early morning for La Paz, arriving at night
Day Seven - April 28 (confimed - sightings in La Paz)
Racing in La Paz>>Pitstop?

April 29 depart La Paz
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 :jumpy: :hearts: :jumpy:
Newman44 kindly recontacted his friend for us and here is her reply:

"We saw them at the airport in Rio on April 23. I'm not sure of the time but it was probably at around noon. We got to Salvador at around 4pm. They were on that flight. Unfortunatly, I don't have anymore info but I hope that helps."

So we can safely assume now (I think) that all teams arr Salvador on 4/23 lateish afternoon?

So maybe there are some Hours of Op to slow them down?

Anyway, one puzzle solved! :thankyou:  :yourock: newman!  :hugs:

Neobie:
Hmm, the 23rd? Apskip scores again!

It now looks like a TAR4 style start - rush somewhere in the city to pick up staggered tickets, then off across the country you go!

(GOL 1830 from 2.35pm to 4.30pm seems to be the only flight within that time frame.)

Chateau d If:

--- Quote ---Newman44 kindly recontacted his friend for us and here is her reply:

"We saw them at the airport in Rio on April 23. I'm not sure of the time but it was probably at around noon. We got to Salvador at around 4pm. They were on that flight. Unfortunatly, I don't have anymore info but I hope that helps."

So we can safely assume now (I think) that all teams arr Salvador on 4/23 lateish afternoon?
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So our Cordoba-sourced tourist diverted from Porto Alegre and would have arrived at the Rio airport at about 9:12 am.  It sounds like they must have missed their chance to get on Gol Transportes Aereos flight # 1600 which left Rio on at 10:30 am.  If so, then they had to wait for a flight that arrived in Salvador around 4 pm.  That would have been Gol Transportes Aereos flight # 1830 which left Rio on at 2:35 pm and arrived at Salvador at 4:30 pm.  They report seeing the Teams around noon at the Rio airport.

This could not have happened on the 23rd because our teams (Pinks in particular) had just arrived at Sao Paulo's airport at 10:05 am.  They were still coming from Chicago on United flight 843.  How could they get from Sao Paulo to Rio by noon?

The earliest they could arrive would be by using LanExpress # 750 leaving Sao Paulo at 12:40 pm and arriving at Rio at 1:45 pm.  So I don't think our teams were seen on April 23rd at Rio.

The fog also supports that it was April 24th.   :jam:




--- Quote ---Hmm, the 23rd? Apskip scores again!
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cold day in Hell

apskip:
I thought I would take a look at Moscow to St. Petersburg train schedules. There are 10 trains every day averaging an 8 hours transit time except for one express late afternoon, leaving just after midnight to just before midnight:

Train # Departs Dep. date Dep. time Arrives Arr. date Arr. time Travel time Route Class  
038 (Afanasy Nikitin) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 00:23 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 6/07/2008 08:48 8h 25min

030A Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 01:05 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 6/07/2008 10:00 8h 55min
  
024 (Yunost) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 12:30 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 6/07/2008 20:10 7h 40min
  
160 (Aurora Express) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 16:30 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 6/07/2008 21:45 5h 15min  

056 Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 20:10 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 7/07/2008 04:55 8h 45min
  
028 (North Palmira) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 21:30 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 7/07/2008 05:30 8h 0min
  
052 Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 22:11 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 7/07/2008 05:25 7h 14min
  
026 (Smena) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 23:00 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 7/07/2008 06:40 7h 40min  

006 (Nikolaevsky Express) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 23:30 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 7/07/2008 07:00 7h 30min  
002 (Red Arrow) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 23:55 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 7/07/2008 07:55 8h 0min
  
004 (Express) Moscow Leningradsky 6/07/2008 23:59 St. Petersburg Moskovsky 7/07/2008 08:00 8h 1min

However, assuming that teams went to the Moscow pitstop the afternoon of May 11, the 12 hour pitstop would take the clock to the early morning hours of May 12, the next train departs at 1230 and arrives May 12 at 2010.

This does not indicate that taking the train between Moscow and St. Petersburg would have been a good idea. Flying makes much more sense. There are 108 daily flights listed(I'm sure some of those are code-share duplicates) from Moscow to St. Petersburg that takes 100 minutes. That's the way I would have designed it. AR13 teams could arrive early in the morning and have all day for tasks to complete before 6pm before having a 36 hour pitstop.

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