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The Amazing Race Asia 3 Spoilers/Speculation
apskip:
Mrs. Shrek, as you can see with puddin showing one version, Peach another, and me a third that there is not the usual concensus on the ARA3 timeline. I have seen nothing serious enough to change my own timeline, so I am reproducing my July 7 version here with very minor changes:
There are a number of assumptions to get me from that one to the updated version below:
1. I switched the order of Beijing and Bangkok to conform to what others have believed and due to the interplay of a May 18 Allan Wu Singapore airport sighting with the Chiang Mai leg. There isn't time to fit Bangkok - Beijing - Chiang Mai via Bangkok into the schedule.
2. The Macau leg is very logical. Indeed, I speculated that it was one of about 10 highest probability places to follow Hong Kong.
3. I do not agree with sending teams off to Taiwan although the jury is not out on that yet. I have kept Hanoi as the next leg after Hue in this timeline.
May 19 Beijing - start of ARA3; pitstop
May 20 leg 2 begins; teams spotted in Beijing airport before 935am and then mid afternoon at Khao San Road in Bangkok
PEK BKK TG675 0830 1215 connecting in Bangkok to TG116 BKK CNX 1715 1825
May 21 Bankgkok tasks and pitstop
May 22 leg 3 begins; logical flights BKK CNX are:
TG102 0755 0855
TG104 1030 1140
TG616 1220 1330
TG110 1240 1350
tasks in Chiang Mai region; pitstop
May 23 leg 4 begins; CNX BKK TG103 0945 1055 connecting Bangkok to Bkk SGN AF164 1325 1450
tasks in Saigon(Ho Chi Minh City)
May 24 tasks; Saigon area extended pitstop begins
May 25 pitstop continued until before 11pm;leg 5 begins; train leaves Saigon 2300 arrives Hue 1616+1 or plane flies next morning (26th) Vietnam Airlines250 0700 0820 SGN HUI
May 26 train arrives Hue 1616 (mid afternoon) or plane in morning;
tasks in Hue area including Imperial City completed before midnight; pitstop starts
May 27 begin leg 6 Hue to Hanoi;
Vietnam Airlines 244 1210 1320
tasks; begin pitstop
May 28 begin leg 7 Hanoi to Hong Kong
Vietnam Airways 790 HAN HKG 1105 1355
Vietnam Airways 792 HAN HKG 1910 2000
tasks in Hong Kong
May 29 complete tasks in Hong Kong with TBC; begin leg 8 in Macau after taking hydrofoil in under 1 hour
May 30 Macau tasks; pitstop
May 31 begin leg 9; return to Hong Kong Airport by hydrofoil; fly to Singapore. most probable flights are CX717 0855 1230 or SQ857 1030 1410 or CX739 1120 1505
tasks in Singapore area, then start pitstop
June 1 begin leg 10
SilkAir468 SIN COK 0820 2015
You should believe whichever version you find to have the best thought process behind it.
georgiapeach:
Apskip, we had an update for the Saigon sighting back here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15379.msg305001.html#msg305001
which changed the Saigon date to Wed the 21st not the 24th anymore.
We have no other evidence placing them in Saigon on any other different day and several of us question this being our race at all. But my post above is trying to see how we could maybe change the dates to make Saigon work at all considering the date change.
Also HUE team sightings were confirmed for May 25, not starting on the 26.
And as far as I know, we have nothing concrete for Hanoi at all, do we? I think that is speculation as well.
It is getting hard to keep up with all the date changes!
And Taiwan IS speculation, but I was given a hint so it bears looking at closely, I think.
Mrs Shrek:
Thanks Askip for giving me your version of the timeline :tup:
apskip:
Peach, if JonLover's evidence is believed, then you are correct that the race must finish Bangkok on May 21 and arrive Saigon before 9pm. With the way pitstops are done, that means that teams would have from the afternoon through that evening before a 12 hour pitstop begins. If the pitstop begins in the morning of the 21st, then teams will not reach Saigon in time to be sighted at the Q Bar. That is a serious compression of tasks in Bangkok, which to me makes it improbable. There are many flight Bangkok to Saigon. The first is at 0900 and the last is TG686 1815 1945.
If Saigon is completed the evening and a pitstop starts on the 22nd, then teams will not reach Chiang Mai until the late afternoon of May 23. Again, the same issue of compressed tasks arises, as you would ideally want teams to be leaving Chiang Mai on the morning of the 24th. I have to say that the pitstop would not happen until the late afternoon or evening or the 24th. That means departure from Chiang Mai on the 25th.
From Chiang Mai on either the 24th or 25th we have TG125 0700 0800 CNX BKK connecting to VietAir850 1410 1540 BKK SGN which connects to VietAir256 1800 1950 SGN HUI if going to Hue first. If my speculation on Hanoi is correct and if Hanoi was before Hue, then the direct flight BKK HAN VietAir830 1220 1410 would replace the previous 2 flights. Given the earlier arrival time, Hanoi would make more sense as teams could start tasks that afternoon.
On May 26( or 27) from Hue to Hanoi it is VietAir240 0800 0910. For Hanoi to Hue it's either VietAir241 0600 0710 or VietAir 245 1010 1120.
The flight options from both Hue and from Hanoi to Hong Kong are worth a look. From Hanoi it's VietAir790 1105 1355. From Hue, it's VietAir240 0800 0910 HUI HAN, then a connection from Hanoi to the prior flight VietAir790 1105 1355.
The amount of backtracking involved is incredible and makes no sense. You have backtracking through Bankok to Chiang Mai and then through Bangkok again (3rd time) to get to Saigon. Anything to Hue last will backtrack throgh Hanoi to get to HongKong.
apskip:
With further thinking about what might have happened on the ARA3 route, I come to the conclusion that Chiang Mai not being a leg would make the route a whole lot more logical. It is the bactrack to Chiang Mai that is the primary factor in an illogical route. What if the reports from Chiang Mai were just a local race as has been speculated?
Then the route would go Beijing Bangkok Saigon Hue Hanoi maybe-somewhere-else-including-Taiwan Hong Kong Macau Singapore Cochin.
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