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Timetables and Flight Information
Neobie:
(Insert joke in bad taste about the missing leg.)
Having gone through the places with direct flights to Siem Reap, here are some possible race destinations for our intrepid racers for running a leg in...
Timings will have to include a possible 12-hour Pit Stop:
Singapore - 1 day, 20h, 5min for racing
Bangkok - 1 day, 18h, 45min for racing
Ho Chi Minh City - 1 day, 16h, 40min for racing
Sydney - 1 day, 14h, 5min for racing
Auckland - 1 day, 12h, 5min for racing
Seoul - 1 day, 2h, 20min for racing
Guangzhou - 22h, 0min for racing
Hanoi - 20h, 0min for racing
(Although if racers are willing to try out that many more connections, I can't help but :faint:)
If you really must know:
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Singapore SQ220: 0805 (Fri morning) to 1420 (Fri afternoon)
Singapore to Siem Reap MI616: 1025 (Sun morning) to 1135 (Sun morning)
Checked Auckland-Singapore and Auckland-Brisbane-Singapore
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Bangkok TG994: 1000 (Fri morning) to 1625 (Fri afternoon)
Bangkok to Siem Reap PG907: 1740 (Fri evening) to 1900 (Fri night)
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Ho Chi Minh City VN782: 1115 (Fri morning) to 1545 (Fri afternoon)
Ho Chi Minh City to Siem Reap VN809: 0825 (Sun morning) to 0945 (Sun morning)
Checked Auckland-Ho Chi Minh City
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Bangkok TG992: 2110 (Sat night) to 0559 (Sun morning)
Bangkok to Siem Reap PG903: 0800 (Sun morning) to 0900 (Sun morning)
Checked Sydney-Singapore-Bangkok route
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney TG4826: 1600 (Sat afternoon) to 1730 (Sat afternoon)
Sydney to Bangkok TG992: 2110 (Sat night) to 0559 (Sun morning)
Bangkok to Siem Reap PG903: 0800 (Sun morning) to 0900 (Sun morning)
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Seoul KE122: 0800 (Fri morning) to 1740 (Fri afternoon)
Seoul to Siem Reap OZ737: 2000 (Sat night) to 2325 (Sat night)
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Guangzhou CZ326: 0950 (Fri morning) to 1700 (Fri afternoon)
Guangzhou to Siem Reap CZ3053: 1300 (Sat afternoon) to 1525 (Sat afternoon)
Checked Auckland-Guangzhou route
Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Ho Chi Minh City VN782: 1115 (Fri morning) to 1545 (Fri afternoon)
Ho Chi Minh City to Hanoi VN782: 1800 (Fri evening) to 2000 (Fri night)
Hanoi to Siem Reap U4232: 1600 (Sat afternoon) to 1800 (Sat evening)
apskip:
Neobie, most of the information you show above was essentially duplicative in terms of already known results. however, you did inspire me to look at one route that should have been examined but that I overlooked previously because it's so sneaky:
Santiago
Auckland
Sydney
Singapore
Bangkok
The reason why this is sneaky is that no flights leave Sydney for Bangkok before mid-afternoon, so there is a huge layover. However, there are two morning flights from Sydney to Singapore and both should be connectable from LAN801 coming in at 7am after its stop in Auckland. Here is what I mean:
SQ220 SYD SIN 0815 1420
TG414 SIN BKK 1530 1650 (or 15 minutes later on departure and arrival, depending on which one you like; both sets are listed on some schedules)
This gets teams into Bangkok to easily make connections into Siem Reap in the late afternoon, such as Bangkok Airways 5901 1720 1840 BKK REP.
apskip:
DELHI TO DUBAI (that has a nice alliteraton to it)
We can take that alliteration one step further once we find out that one of the 2 best routes to Dubai is via Doha. That is like the old tinker to Evers to Chance double play combination of the 1908 chicago Cubs - Delhi to Doha to Dubai.
DEL DOH QR233 0500 0620
DOH DXB QR100 0755 1000
OR
DEL AUH 9W582 2100 2335
AUH DXB 9W7485 0115 0245
The first is Qatar Airways through Doha and the second Jet Airways through Abu Dhabi.
Neobie:
Apskip, I apologize for not being more lucid. The focus of the post wasn't really about how teams get into Siem Reap, but how long teams could spend at each place, showing the probability that the airport "hinterland" (New Zealand for Auckland, for example) could be the missing leg between Santiago and Siem Reap.
I understand that you're working under the notion that Santiago to Siem Reap is one continuous leg. However, teams would have little problem reaching Siem Reap by Friday night, a long long time for production to drag out in a single city until Tuesday when they leave for Bangkok. The proposal of a "rest day" in Bangkok is sound, but historically I've never heard of production having one outside of the Pit Stops, in the middle of a leg. The Siem Reap Pit Stop wasn't extended either, as we have sightings of racers in action both on Sunday and Monday.
blahblah The flights above, therefore, aren't chosen because they are overall quickest, but how long a layover it provides in certain destination cities - how early teams could get into a destination from Santiago, and how long they could stay there (for a leg) before rushing to make their appearance on Tonle Sap on Sunday.
An example - Ho Chi Minh City and surrounds, with its 40h layover, would be a much more plausible location to spend a leg than Hanoi with 20h, which is hardly enough time to run a leg, have a Pit Stop, and getting to and from the airport. This, of course, is working under the assumption that there is a leg in between Santiago and Siem Reap.
On another note, teams arrived in Terminal 2 in Dubai, I think. Qatar comes in through Terminal 1. Jet Airways' 9W7485 is a bus service, not a flight, so it probably wouldn't entail teams passing through airport customs at Dubai.
Could they have taken the direct from Air India? (This schedule, lifted from the Air India website, is also where I got the "apparent two-hour" flight from.)
AI9897: 0750 to 0945
AI9895: 2000 to 2155
AI747: 2055 to 2245
:groan: Ack, airplane kudzu and essay dissertations! I speak too much.
apskip:
neobie, those are all valid flight numbers. The reason that I did not find them on general-purpose airline reservations systems is that they are all filled from May 8 to May 11 except for AI747. The Air India reservations systems will boldly tell you to rebook for May 12 or later. Even then, specific flights are already sold out in fare classes for May 12 and forward. Other reservations will not even acknowledge the existence of those flights if they all fully booked.
I conclude that World Race Productions planners must have reserved lots of seats for the teams and for production way in advance. They did not want a repeat of what happened leaving Maputo in AR11.
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