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careybear:

--- Quote from: TexasLady on April 02, 2008, 04:40:00 PM ---Well said NCbbfan. I also have an opinion and it is something that I thought a lot about last night because it really does bother me.

When James was screaming in Sheila's face that was over the line. The fact that no one came to help her compounded it for me. It is unacceptable behavior in a "game" for me. Yet, I haven't seen a lot of outcry about it and this is my concern. If we accept this then what's next? Next time the person is hit? Or worse..badly hurt? If we accept that, is there another boundary we've crossed? Is this what CBS has come to to get ratings? That's my question. If so, what will they do next?

And that doesn't even begin to touch on the other sexual activity and language which was not curtailed either.

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Amen TL, I whole heartdly agree.. you took the words right out of my mouth

shoo:

--- Quote from: ThunderStruck on April 02, 2008, 04:50:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: TexasLady on April 02, 2008, 04:40:00 PM ---Well said NCbbfan. I also have an opinion and it is something that I thought a lot about last night because it really does bother me.

When James was screaming in Sheila's face that was over the line. The fact that no one came to help her compounded it for me. It is unacceptable behavior in a "game" for me. Yet, I haven't seen a lot of outcry about it and this is my concern. If we accept this then what's next? Next time the person is hit? Or worse..badly hurt? If we accept that, is there another boundary we've crossed? Is this what CBS has come to to get ratings? That's my question. If so, what will they do next?

And that doesn't even begin to touch on the other sexual activity and language which was not curtailed either.

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I thought the same thing.  I've heard Josh tell people to stay out of it because it's not their fight.  But they J/J only throw fits on the women.  You saw the other night when Adam got mad, James shut up IMMEDIATELY.

I wouldn't last a day in that place because I would not be able to tolerate it.  I used to be called the Bully Of The Court.  OK, I lived on a court when I was a kid.  But I got that name from stopping people from picking on other people.  When it started, I would say, That's enough, or give them a taste of their own medicine for a second and step back and say, How do you feel now?  Don't like it Huh?  

I really don't know if it would help or hurt in that house because they all have a common thread of immaturity running through them.  They like Mama Sharon, but I don't think they'd like Mama Thunder  ;)

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 I see your point - both James and Josh do focus on the women to yell at.  It very much is an intimidation factor for them to use.  It just wouldn’t work with the Ryan or Adam or even Matt when he was there.   Is it sexist, yes.  I think it says something about the women on the show though as much as it says about Josh and James.  The women on the show seem VERY easy to intimidate and control.  I just don't see any of the remaining women on the show as having very strong personalities in a way that could handle intense confrontation.  Nat loves the positive / sexual attn she gets from men and is prone to appear weak to get that attn.  Sharon relies completely on Josh and is now leaning heavy on Sheila.  Sheila has a lot of baggage (age has alot to do with that) and tends to put more meaning into things that maybe really be there and gets upset easily.  These are very glaring weaknesses in all three of them.  I hope I don't sound horribly sexist in this but to me none of these women seem strong at all.  It makes all three of them very easy targets for any of the men. 

side note:  I think any of the women who have been booted (except Amanda of course) so far would have a much better chance against the guys left on the show than the three actually remaining. 

ThunderStruck:

--- Quote from: sunshine26 on April 02, 2008, 04:54:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThunderStruck on April 02, 2008, 01:15:31 PM ---WOW  :ascared

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what  :groan:

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yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

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I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

careybear:

--- Quote from: ThunderStruck on April 02, 2008, 05:05:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: sunshine26 on April 02, 2008, 04:54:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThunderStruck on April 02, 2008, 01:15:31 PM ---WOW  :ascared

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what  :groan:

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yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

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I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

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I dont know I think it is good game play really, She wants gone who she wants gone, and knows what is best for her, So she is letting her group know now that this is the way it needs to be, I think her being honest about it she is going to be able to do what she had intentions on doing, Taking out Josh. I am a Sharon fan, So I am happyJosh is going over Sharon. But I really think Nat is a GREAT game player.

shoo:

--- Quote from: ThunderStruck on April 02, 2008, 05:05:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: sunshine26 on April 02, 2008, 04:54:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ThunderStruck on April 02, 2008, 01:15:31 PM ---WOW  :ascared

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what  :groan:

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yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

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I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

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OMG you are SO right!  :yess:  She is power trippin hard.   Wow...shes gonna fall hard next week not being HOH and having the deal with the reality that she isnt the "princess".  ummmmm......  :'( :lol3:

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