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apskip:
bb ca fan, I am amused by a few things that Ramsay said. However, most interesting is the attitude of the writer, who based on his reputation apparently she was going to be eaten alive by Gordon Ramsay. Come on, the man is just trying to run a restaurant with some marginal help. It is his style to throw things and to curse incessantly, but he apparently is a very decent chap in real life when the cameras are not on. As Jon Lovitz on Saturday Night Live used to say: "ACTING".

The most interesting question is There seems to be complete lack of culinary talent this season? I've noticed that too and pondered why. I believe the answer is that the advanced chefs want to be on TopChef and Ramsay is stuck with the less talented to work with. He is a gifted teacher of the culinary arts, but there is only so much he can do in limited time of 15 one hour episodes. From the list of original HK4 contestants I have culled 3 that I think say it all:

Ben, 29, an electrician and former chef from Charlotte, NC

Dominic, 43, a stay-at-home dad from Catawba, SC

Rosann, 33, a receptionist and former cook from Staten Island, NY

Note the use of the word FORMER. Ramsay had to dig up 3 chefs who were out of the business in order to make this show work. Is it any wonder that he is having such serious problems?

Ramsay's answer was that his cheftestants have to be flamboyant and funny, and that may put him into liabiliity situations(which he hates but has to accept).

Note also Ramsay's apparent disdain for FOX. There were multiple references that were not exactly flattering.

rosesrred:

--- Quote from: apskip on May 16, 2008, 11:05:15 AM ---I would not say it was such a bad day for Petrozza. He could not tell a nectarine form a pineapple. He could also not distinguish turnip from a sweet potato. However he did get chicken and he was the only person who had half a clue on the funny taste to the faux meat even though he could not bring that one home. He did score one point in that phase of the competition. How many did Louross score? How many did Bobby score? Goose eggs for both! Only Ben seemed to have a better palate and it was a completely different type of test. Ben might have gotten zero if he had to do what Petrozza and the others had to do.

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And I noticed during Ben's and Matt's "taste challenge" that they knew they were eating clam chowder so they basically had to go thru the ingredients that make chowder and it was a slam dunk for either of them. I was naming the ingredients as they were it was a very ez challenge for the last two.

marigold:

--- Quote from: apskip on May 16, 2008, 11:27:37 AM ---bb ca fan, I am amused by a few things that Ramsay said. However, most interesting is the attitude of the writer, who based on his reputation apparently she was going to be eaten alive by Gordon Ramsay. Come on, the man is just trying to run a restaurant with some marginal help. It is his style to throw things and to curse incessantly, but he apparently is a very decent chap in real life when the cameras are not on. As Jon Lovitz on Saturday Night Live used to say: "ACTING".

The most interesting question is There seems to be complete lack of culinary talent this season? I've noticed that too and pondered why. I believe the answer is that the advanced chefs want to be on TopChef and Ramsay is stuck with the talented to work with. He is a gifted teacher of the culinary arts, but there is only so much he can do in limited time of 15 one hour episodes. From the list of original HK4 contestants I have culled 3 that I think say it all:

Ben, 29, an electrician and former chef from Charlotte, NC

Dominic, 43, a stay-at-home dad from Catawba, SC

Rosann, 33, a receptionist and former cook from Staten Island, NY

Note the use of the word FORMER. Ramsay had to dig up 3 chefs who were out of the business in order to make this show work. Is it any wonder that he is having such serious problems?

Ramsay's answer was that his cheftestants have to be flamboyant and funny, and that may put him into liabiliity situations(which he hates but has to accept).

Note also Ramsay's apparent disdain for FOX. There were multiple references that were not exactly flattering.

--- End quote ---

Oh absolutely apskip that is the difference between Top Chef and HK.

You know I can't forget an article I had read and posted early in this thread where Ramsay stated that, "It's much more exciting to me when you can pluck somebody out of obscurity." He mentioned "that the people who don't start out as professionals often have a greater level of passion in the kitchen." So as completely unqualified as his contestants seem, what an opportunity for them.

Another tidbit of information I was glad to revisit states that "Chef Ramsay dropped other interesting tidbits about the season, such as the fact that all the previous winners will be back to help with the judging. This should also provide an opportunity to see how successful the winners from the first three seasons have been." So I am looking forward to that.

apskip:

--- Quote from: ca bb fan on May 16, 2008, 01:12:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: apskip on May 16, 2008, 11:27:37 AM ---bb ca fan, I am amused by a few things that Ramsay said. However, most interesting is the attitude of the writer, who based on his reputation apparently she was going to be eaten alive by Gordon Ramsay. Come on, the man is just trying to run a restaurant with some marginal help. It is his style to throw things and to curse incessantly, but he apparently is a very decent chap in real life when the cameras are not on. As Jon Lovitz on Saturday Night Live used to say: "ACTING".

The most interesting question is There seems to be complete lack of culinary talent this season? I've noticed that too and pondered why. I believe the answer is that the advanced chefs want to be on TopChef and Ramsay is stuck with the less talented to work with. He is a gifted teacher of the culinary arts, but there is only so much he can do in limited time of 15 one hour episodes. From the list of original HK4 contestants I have culled 3 that I think say it all:

Ben, 29, an electrician and former chef from Charlotte, NC

Dominic, 43, a stay-at-home dad from Catawba, SC

Rosann, 33, a receptionist and former cook from Staten Island, NY

Note the use of the word FORMER. Ramsay had to dig up 3 chefs who were out of the business in order to make this show work. Is it any wonder that he is having such serious problems?

Ramsay's answer was that his cheftestants have to be flamboyant and funny, and that may put him into liabiliity situations(which he hates but has to accept).

Note also Ramsay's apparent disdain for FOX. There were multiple references that were not exactly flattering.

--- End quote ---

Oh absolutely apskip that is the difference between Top Chef and HK.

You know I can't forget an article I had read and posted early in this thread where Ramsay stated that, "It's much more exciting to me when you can pluck somebody out of obscurity." He mentioned "that the people who don't start out as professionals often have a greater level of passion in the kitchen." So as completely unqualified as his contestants seem, what an opportunity for them.

Another tidbit of information I was glad to revisit states that "Chef Ramsay dropped other interesting tidbits about the season, such as the fact that all the previous winners will be back to help with the judging. This should also provide an opportunity to see how successful the winners from the first three seasons have been." So I am looking forward to that.

--- End quote ---
I think we had a taste of how Ramsay uses such judges in the HK3 Finale. They are just freaking placehohlders whose job is clearly to make sure the score gets and stays tied so that the heavy hitters can make the real decision. It's all phony baloney. They could hire a monkey to do the same job!

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