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michael:
Apskip this is a speculation thread and obviously people are going to have different opinions you don't need to prove why you think it ends in Alaska with each post.

Some of us say it doesn't some of us say it does..We'll find out soon enough

Kogs:

--- Quote from: apskip on January 06, 2008, 03:58:34 PM ---The Girdwood tasks are fairly extensive, involving several hours. Just getting to Girdwood from Anchorage International Airport takes one hour and getting back takes the same.

It is not logical to believe that teams will start a day in Taipei, fly to Anchorage, do tasks, and then then fly mid afternoon at the earliest to somewhere in the lower 48.

I have taken a fresh look(I did it 3 months ago, probably near the beginning of this thread) at which Western airport could be reached same-day from Anchorage. Starting from after 1pm, there is the list:

SEA AS162 1521 1945 (Note: there are several more about one hour apart later)
PDX AS162/ AS2433 SEA PDX 2100 2150
LAS US0116 1652 2300
LAX AS162/ AS598 SEA LAX 2055 2527
SAN AS162/ AS502 SEA SAN 2045  2331

So, the first possible flights gets into Seattle just before sunset.
The second flight gets to Portland well after sunset.
the flights to Las Vegas, Las Angeles, and San Diego get in in the hour before midnight.

ANYONE FOR AN IN-THE DARK FINALE? Obviously, not me.
I am using van Munster's statement of a 21 day schedule for AR12 as the basis for my belief that July 29 is the final day. Anyone can take the case of history(it's quite easy to say that Alaska or Hawaii have never before been the finish line for any Amazing Race) but I take the contrary case and say that it's the right time for van Munster to have stopped at Alaska. I also belive that we'll see a finish line in Hawaii soon.

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dont believe bvm. take it for a grain of salt

Zack.:

--- Quote from: apskip on January 06, 2008, 03:58:34 PM ---The Girdwood tasks are fairly extensive, involving several hours. Just getting to Girdwood from Anchorage International Airport takes one hour and getting back takes the same.

It is not logical to believe that teams will start a day in Taipei, fly to Anchorage, do tasks, and then then fly mid afternoon at the earliest to somewhere in the lower 48.

I have taken a fresh look(I did it 3 months ago, probably near the beginning of this thread) at which Western airport could be reached same-day from Anchorage. Starting from after 1pm, there is the list:

SEA AS162 1521 1945 (Note: there are several more about one hour apart later)
PDX AS162/ AS2433 SEA PDX 2100 2150
LAS US0116 1652 2300
LAX AS162/ AS598 SEA LAX 2055 2527
SAN AS162/ AS502 SEA SAN 2045  2331

So, the first possible flights gets into Seattle just before sunset.
The second flight gets to Portland well after sunset.
the flights to Las Vegas, Las Angeles, and San Diego get in in the hour before midnight.

ANYONE FOR AN IN-THE DARK FINALE? Obviously, not me.
I am using van Munster's statement of a 21 day schedule for AR12 as the basis for my belief that July 29 is the final day. Anyone can take the case of history(it's quite easy to say that Alaska or Hawaii have never before been the finish line for any Amazing Race) but I take the contrary case and say that it's the right time for van Munster to have stopped at Alaska. I also belive that we'll see a finish line in Hawaii soon.

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The question then becomes if they're staying in Alaska (which is possible), then if they're going to stay in the Anchorage area or if they're going to venture out for the Finish Line. I think that they may fly out to Fairbanks, have a task or two there, and then have the finish line in the Fairbanks area. Flights from Anchorage to Fairbanks take about an hour (and depart nearly every hour) so it allows them to have a somewhat close finish while preventing the racers from driving through Alaska.

apskip:
I have taken a fresh look at the connections from Mumbai to Osaka. AI358 is a five-times-weekly nonstop flight from Mumbai to Hongkong, departing 2340 and arriving 0755+1. I had run this for one day earlier(before we knew about the extended pitstop which we think was in Florence). The no-flying dates for AI358 are Monday and Wednesday and I ran i for July 23, a Monday. The 24th is a Tuesday and that flight is valid. Connections are critical.

Editor's Note: actually this has become moot becasue July 25 was a Wednesday and AI358 did not fly on Wednesdays. There is no allternative flight that goes from BOM to HKG except for AI310, which stops Delhi and HongKong before finishing in Seoul. It is advantageous for teams to stay on until Seoul. Then they would take  JL9062 ICN KIX 1220 1400. A flight from Hong Kong CX506 departing 1020 arriving 1440 would not have been a smart move compared to this.

mswood:
Kogs and Zachattack308

Thanks for Dallas (I knew Calgary, but couldn't remember how to spell it, and the spelling police are on this thread).

And Yeah the final legs can be odd with tasks.

For example I listed the Family Edition as being two legs shown as a two hour block.  But I was wrong.  There is no Pit Stop (even though they do sleep) in this leg.  A leg that has one detour and two roadblocks.  So it is one leg that's two hours with an unusual number of tasks.

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