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speculation on the finale
Kogs:
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--- Quote from: puddin on May 05, 2007, 10:38:57 AM ---I predict Big Papi uncovers Jimmy Hoffa's body at Yankee stadium :kogs
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Puddin, its a documented fact that he rests in the foundation of Giant Stadium (that's in New Jersey) under the Northwest corner.
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oh crap i guessed im not aloud there anymore. oops!!!
mswood:
--- Quote from: thats right on May 04, 2007, 05:41:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: asamber1 on May 04, 2007, 05:33:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: thats right on May 04, 2007, 08:24:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Michael D on May 03, 2007, 05:55:01 PM ---asamber1 - C/M and D/O where at that agent for I think four hours or something like that, they had to work hard to get these two teams onto that flight, by the time E/D got there it was already booked.
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Wrong. The ticket agent said something like "Oh, one just opened up" shortly after Eric and Danielle ended up leaving the agency. That's when the two teams got their flight.
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CORRECT!!! Eric and Danielle left [fighting like what else to they do, they have their great "fake" relationship] before CM and OD got tickets!
You would think they would try to say Danielle/Eric were at least Long Distance Daters?
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I'm not commenting on the relationship, but I do believe that its hard to imagine people rooting for this team in terms of skill, especially when some of their worst situations (the Poland flight, as well as the Hong Kong flight) were caused directly by their own efforts. That's not to say I don't understand that people like them in real life. Although it reflects poorly when just about every comment from them is directed negatively about someone else.
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Actually lets get some facts straight here (at least as presented on the show).
Yes Eric & Danielle left briefly from the agency. But they never were helped by an agent. If some tickets opened up (8 at least) we have no idea if any others did, and for them to do something wrong you would have to know if more tickets then the 8 that were used by Charla & Mirna and Oswald & Danny's teams (and crew) were available. Meaning 4 more tickets would have had to open up.
After all it took 7 plus hours for Oswald & Danny to get tickets to clear up, we have no idea if Eric & Danielle being right after them would have had tickets.
What we do know about that leg is that only Dustin & Kandice performed the tasks of that day faster then they did. Thats their performance.
In Hong Kong they did what you think should be done. THey checked internet and they put themselves on both waiting list. It certainly isn't their fault that Charla & Mirna who never put themselves on the 2cd flights waiting list was allowed to use Oswald & Danny's booking to get on. They actually you know behaved like polite individuals and didn't get into any ones face and tell the locals how to do their job. Which can't be said for either Dustin & Kandice or Charla & Mirna. Now sure perhaps if they made abig enough stink they might have fought enough to get on board. But ideally they shouldn't have to.
In fac the worst behavior they have shown to any local was Danielle begging to get on the connection. They have fought very little with each other (again, I strongly suggest teams rewatch previous seasons to get an idea about teams that fight with each other). Or hell even watch Charla & Mirna who have fought more often with each other and yelled more at each other. Or yelled at and fought with other teams more.
One thing I do wish is that I wish we knew how consistent the travel time on the dhows were to Zanzibar. Because just off of departure times of the rides and arrivial times at Pit Stop Eric & Danielle finished that one faster then any team (but that does have the possability of fluctuating dhow times, unless they use the motor on board to make a set time, and honestly we don't know).
But look at the airport shuffle they do. They were the ones who managed to snag through persistence the early flight in episode #3, they were the ones to first seek out the upstairs office in Leg 6 I think, and out of that group were the only team not to get out that later flight.
They try and use internet often to get flights (we haven't for example seen Dustin & Kandice unless instructed by the clues try anthing besides the Airports).
They have performed one leg poorly when they were all on a level playing field. Charla & Mirna have been nearly eliminated several tiems on an even playing field. On three episodes they have taken longet to complete the days tasks then anyone and were only saved from elimiantion due to teams being behind due to flights beyond their control.
Dustin & Kandice who have raced the 2cd half of the race strong have three episodes in a row where they failed to follow the instructions fo the clues.
So really Eric & Danielle have made actually fewer out and out mistakes, they have actually performed tasks as well as any team on this season.
They have been hurt by 2 yields, a 30 minute penality and 3 cases of flight delays that were not their fault and were not risky flights that they gambled on knowing it was a risking flight.
By the end of hte season I might actually try and complete something I did for season 9 and try and get a best guess on the final three and see who actually performed the tasks faster or slower for the full season.
AS for their eit, sure they have been pissed at Oswald & Danny, Dustin & Kandice and didn't like The Guidos. ANd get annoyed by Charla & Mirna (which only one team has said they aren't annoyed by them).
But on clips we generally get a much nicer showing by this team.
Compare that to say Oswald & Danny on clips we get a lot more poor behavior, more insulting locals, more fighting with teams, cussing each other out, cussing other racers out, ect). Their good seems to always make the episode, their worst usually doesn't.
With Eric & Danielle between episode, clips, mat chats, interviews so far the worst has made it to the screen. But a lot of nicer moments haven't.
For several other teams their worst doesn't make the epsiode.
thats right:
--- Quote from: mswood on May 06, 2007, 01:17:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: thats right on May 04, 2007, 05:41:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: asamber1 on May 04, 2007, 05:33:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: thats right on May 04, 2007, 08:24:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Michael D on May 03, 2007, 05:55:01 PM ---asamber1 - C/M and D/O where at that agent for I think four hours or something like that, they had to work hard to get these two teams onto that flight, by the time E/D got there it was already booked.
--- End quote ---
Wrong. The ticket agent said something like "Oh, one just opened up" shortly after Eric and Danielle ended up leaving the agency. That's when the two teams got their flight.
--- End quote ---
CORRECT!!! Eric and Danielle left [fighting like what else to they do, they have their great "fake" relationship] before CM and OD got tickets!
You would think they would try to say Danielle/Eric were at least Long Distance Daters?
--- End quote ---
I'm not commenting on the relationship, but I do believe that its hard to imagine people rooting for this team in terms of skill, especially when some of their worst situations (the Poland flight, as well as the Hong Kong flight) were caused directly by their own efforts. That's not to say I don't understand that people like them in real life. Although it reflects poorly when just about every comment from them is directed negatively about someone else.
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Actually lets get some facts straight here (at least as presented on the show).
Yes Eric & Danielle left briefly from the agency. But they never were helped by an agent. If some tickets opened up (8 at least) we have no idea if any others did, and for them to do something wrong you would have to know if more tickets then the 8 that were used by Charla & Mirna and Oswald & Danny's teams (and crew) were available. Meaning 4 more tickets would have had to open up.
After all it took 7 plus hours for Oswald & Danny to get tickets to clear up, we have no idea if Eric & Danielle being right after them would have had tickets.
What we do know about that leg is that only Dustin & Kandice performed the tasks of that day faster then they did. Thats their performance.
In Hong Kong they did what you think should be done. THey checked internet and they put themselves on both waiting list. It certainly isn't their fault that Charla & Mirna who never put themselves on the 2cd flights waiting list was allowed to use Oswald & Danny's booking to get on. They actually you know behaved like polite individuals and didn't get into any ones face and tell the locals how to do their job. Which can't be said for either Dustin & Kandice or Charla & Mirna. Now sure perhaps if they made abig enough stink they might have fought enough to get on board. But ideally they shouldn't have to.
In fac the worst behavior they have shown to any local was Danielle begging to get on the connection. They have fought very little with each other (again, I strongly suggest teams rewatch previous seasons to get an idea about teams that fight with each other). Or hell even watch Charla & Mirna who have fought more often with each other and yelled more at each other. Or yelled at and fought with other teams more.
One thing I do wish is that I wish we knew how consistent the travel time on the dhows were to Zanzibar. Because just off of departure times of the rides and arrivial times at Pit Stop Eric & Danielle finished that one faster then any team (but that does have the possability of fluctuating dhow times, unless they use the motor on board to make a set time, and honestly we don't know).
But look at the airport shuffle they do. They were the ones who managed to snag through persistence the early flight in episode #3, they were the ones to first seek out the upstairs office in Leg 6 I think, and out of that group were the only team not to get out that later flight.
They try and use internet often to get flights (we haven't for example seen Dustin & Kandice unless instructed by the clues try anthing besides the Airports).
They have performed one leg poorly when they were all on a level playing field. Charla & Mirna have been nearly eliminated several tiems on an even playing field. On three episodes they have taken longet to complete the days tasks then anyone and were only saved from elimiantion due to teams being behind due to flights beyond their control.
Dustin & Kandice who have raced the 2cd half of the race strong have three episodes in a row where they failed to follow the instructions fo the clues.
So really Eric & Danielle have made actually fewer out and out mistakes, they have actually performed tasks as well as any team on this season.
They have been hurt by 2 yields, a 30 minute penality and 3 cases of flight delays that were not their fault and were not risky flights that they gambled on knowing it was a risking flight.
By the end of hte season I might actually try and complete something I did for season 9 and try and get a best guess on the final three and see who actually performed the tasks faster or slower for the full season.
AS for their eit, sure they have been pissed at Oswald & Danny, Dustin & Kandice and didn't like The Guidos. ANd get annoyed by Charla & Mirna (which only one team has said they aren't annoyed by them).
But on clips we generally get a much nicer showing by this team.
Compare that to say Oswald & Danny on clips we get a lot more poor behavior, more insulting locals, more fighting with teams, cussing each other out, cussing other racers out, ect). Their good seems to always make the episode, their worst usually doesn't.
With Eric & Danielle between episode, clips, mat chats, interviews so far the worst has made it to the screen. But a lot of nicer moments haven't.
For several other teams their worst doesn't make the epsiode.
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Facts :lol3:
My point was that there was obviously a better flight available. I have absolutely no idea why you are talking about Dustin & Kandice doing tasks, it has nothing to do with it.
In Hong Kong they did what you think should be done. THey checked internet and they put themselves on both waiting list. It certainly isn't their fault that Charla & Mirna who never put themselves on the 2cd flights waiting list was allowed to use Oswald & Danny's booking to get on. They actually you know behaved like polite individuals and didn't get into any ones face and tell the locals how to do their job. Which can't be said for either Dustin & Kandice or Charla & Mirna. Now sure perhaps if they made abig enough stink they might have fought enough to get on board. But ideally they shouldn't have to.
No it is not their fault that Charla & Mirna were able to get on. HOWEVER, there is a defining moment in the episode in which Eric & Danielle decide to exchange money as opposed to actually checking in to their flight. The other two teams checked in for their stand-by (although Charla & Mirna technically were not on stand-by). That is their fault, no way denying it.
In fac the worst behavior they have shown to any local was Danielle begging to get on the connection. They have fought very little with each other (again, I strongly suggest teams rewatch previous seasons to get an idea about teams that fight with each other). Or hell even watch Charla & Mirna who have fought more often with each other and yelled more at each other. Or yelled at and fought with other teams more.
That is not the worst behavior. Don't forget to include the "dirty pirate hooker" comments, the "queen" comments about the Guidos, the "you guys are pieces of sh*t", "I'm going to kick Danny and Ozzy's faces in". Let me re-iterate my first post: I said NOTHING about bickering between the two.
From what was shown, there were 3 dhows. Charla & Mirna were held up to wait for another team under the guise of bad weather, although Eric & Danielle were able to take a dhow alone. That's irrelevant to any point either of us are trying to make.
But look at the airport shuffle they do. They were the ones who managed to snag through persistence the early flight in episode #3, they were the ones to first seek out the upstairs office in Leg 6 I think, and out of that group were the only team not to get out that later flight.
I've already mentioned airports, and the only reason they should be mentioned is Danielle's statements that they have bad airline luck. As I've mentioned 2 of the bad instances they were in (to Poland and to Hong Kong) were their fault.
And the fact that they have used the internet is relevant because...?
Ah, how quickly you overlook that Charla & Mirna get the leads they do because they work hard to get the flight which will give them a lead.
Dustin & Kandice who have raced the 2cd half of the race strong have three episodes in a row where they failed to follow the instructions fo the clues.
What is that about Dustin & Kandice failing to follow clues 3 episodes in a row? We're really reaching here. The point I'm trying to make is that Eric & Danielle are not an underdog team who have had to overcome the biggest obstacles. They may have had a few more obstacles, but they were always manageable and some were event preventable (airlines).
They have been hurt by 2 yields, a 30 minute penality and 3 cases of flight delays that were not their fault and were not risky flights that they gambled on knowing it was a risking flight.
2 yields, yes, although one is almost negligible because of the time necessary to prepare the jumpers of the Macau Tower. 30 minute penalty, yes, they ran that leg well. 2 cases of the flight delays were their fault, while the other one (to Tanzania) was not.
This is not about Oswald & Danny, stop comaring things to other teams. This is about Eric & Danielle's proclamation that they are the underdogs.
Yes, because I'm sure every other team has called another team pieces of sh*t, threatened physical violence against them, and made a slur about their sexuality.
michael:
you might want to bold the parts you copied....it makes you look like you are having a conversation with yourself.
puddin:
lol, I gave up trying to figure out what thats right point is, like yesterday :waves:
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