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EP6: "We're Going To Trade You For Food Now."
gingerman28:
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--- Quote from: apskip on March 25, 2007, 09:16:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: puddin on March 25, 2007, 08:51:49 PM ---What date are we on in TAR time?
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PUDDIN, the Charla/Mirna and Oswald/Danny and Uchenna/Joyce and Dustin/Kandice arrivals at the dock in Dar-es-Salaam were on Saturday Dec. 2. Their trips across to Zanzibar and finsh at the pitstop were all on Sunday Dec. 3.
Eric/Danielle arrived at the dock Sunday late afternoon and finished up 3 hours behind U/J adn D/K Sunday night.
Joe/Bill and Ian/Teri got across to Zanzibar late Sunday night, but hours of operation stopped them until Monday morning Dec. 4 at the museum. After that, they went through the rungu toss and to the pitstop fairly quickly.
I predict that there will be a mass bunching of the top 5 teams getting to the next site, which I still think has to be Africa and probably in the Nairobi area. The Guidos will be left behind because they are almost 24 hours behind C/M and O/D and about 20 hours behind U/J and D/K.
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Apskip, how do you figure Eric & Dnaielle are only 3 hours back from D & K and U & J and I don't recall an hours of operation. Am i missing somethinI mean not having check the time to travel. But with a three hour difference between boats 1 and two and the 2cd boat departing at 8:30 am. I would assume that there is still a three hour difference between teh 3rd and 4th boat, but that isn't known. What is known is that they departed before Sunset, which should be 6 something p.m so Eric & Dee could ahve left around 5pm.
But thats a whole 8 and a half hours difference in time of departure.
I mean just from this, if no delays due to any variables that I am unaware of and if teams all took roughlyt he same time to travel and do taks. Then we should see that
Charla & Mirna & Oswald and Danny check in late afternoon that day (notice the long shadows on Phil. So I guess around 4:30pm
Then add a three hour and a half hour gap with U&J (due to penality) and doing all the same taks.
So I would guess a time of 8:00 pm
Dustin & Kandice probably around 15-30 minutes later.
And then Eric & Danielle at roughly at nearly 12 hours after Charla & Mirna & Oswald & Danny at say 3:30 (or maybe the mention 3am from Phil's interview (having to go back out a 3 am to check in a team.).
Then Guidos say 2 and a half or 3 hours after that. For a time after Sunrise say at around 6:30am to 7:00 am.
If I am even close to being correct it still leaves the first group a nearly unheard of lead of around 14-15 hours over the last team. Of course this could be the 17 hour mentioned or that could be a later leg.
SO comeon Chateau, apskip show me where I 've screwed up.
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mswood, your assumptions may be more correct than mine. Here are my assumptions and analysis in a little more detail:
1. Dhows leave DAR dock at 530am (C/M, O/D), 830am (U/J, D/K), around 530pm (E/D) and 830pm (I/T, J/B), but museum was not open after 10pm(assume it opened 6am).
2. All crossings take about 3.5 hours. Some may have taken more, but there is no way to know which ones.
3. From west coast Zanzibar island to the museum was supposed to be 1/3 mile on foot, 5 minutes. Logs were 2 miles by taxi, then 1 mile by cart.
4. Puzzle looked like it could be done in less than 20 minutes by a sharp team(U/J or J/B) or 40 minutes for a slow one like Ian/Teri.
5. Logs could be done in about 40 minutes to get to the source, load, travel, and unload.
6. Distance to rungu toss was 15 miles or 30 minutes.
7. Rungu toss looked like to took 10 to 30 minutes.
8. Trip back to Old Fort, Stonetown would probably be in the 30 minute range.
Add it up and you get:
C/M finish line at 1100.
O/D finish line at 1110.
U/J finish line at 1345.
D/K finish line at 1415.
E/D finish line at 2225.
J/B finish line at 0740.
I/T finish line at 0755.
With this detail, I get 20 hours, 40 minutes as the lead Charla/Mirna have over Joe/Bill. The key to this is the assumption that the museum closed for 8 hours. This was substantiated by the fact that they were in dayl;ight when exiting the museum, which if they went out around midnight would have been impossible.
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Sorry, I think your time line is way out of line. Note that when Charla and Mirna leap upon the mat, the sun is down low shining right into Phil's eyes. Same is true for Oswald and Danny. Later on we have Uchenna and Joyce arriving after sunset (it is dark out now so no way can it be only 1345. At that hour the sun would be practically overhead and it would be bright, but it is dark) Same goes for The Beauty Queens. There is no way to judge the arrival of Eric and Dee. The final two arrivals the next morning after sunrise look like good possibilities.
Not to make snap judgments, but the time line has to be rethought. Perhaps the Dowl trip did take a lot longer than estimated.
Chateau d If:
Here's my quick look at the timeline on for Zanzibar. I think we can make it work by using really long Dhow times.
I can tweak the times when I review my tape.
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apskip:
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on March 26, 2007, 12:58:10 PM ---Here's my quick look at the timeline on for Zanzibar. I think we can make it work by using really long Dhow times.
I can tweak the times when I review my tape.
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CHATEAU, the sea portion is anyone's guess. However, the land portion isn't. I think you are wildly overestimating the time to travel by taxi a 15 mile trip to and a 15 miles trip from the rungu toss site. Why 1 hour and 1.2 hours? Why not 30 minutes for each?
georgiapeach:
Just for interest--one of the videos said that there was a religious exodus on, leading to all flights being full.
This could be the start of the hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca), which this year began Dec 28. For many pilgrims, this is a once in a lifetime trip, and I can believe that many would go far ahead of the actual start.
What I don't understand is why teams didn't look at other alternatives? Maybe a flight to Mombasa and local transport to Dar? Anything would have been better than sitting around an airport all day/night/day...
ETA: Mat Chats! Lots of good info there!
Guidos confirm hajj as an issue--
E/D confirm being behind by 12-14 hours
Phil confirms Old Fort Mat as his sleeping place with others (in E/D clip)
BQ's (sunburnt) confirm a 9 hour boat ride
And is a FF clue green? Because in Ch/Mirna's you can see she is holding a clue packet that has a green (blue and red too) clue card
Chateau d If:
Thanks Peach ! Now I can accommodate Apskip's land estimates.
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