Author Topic: TAR31 Ratings (Read 17713 times)

jb542 · « **on:** April 18, 2019, 08:55:26 AM »

18-49 demo ratings for episode 1 will be released at 11am ET.
Overnight household ratings were released this morning and TAR got a 3.6 HH rating. Last years premiere got a 4.8 HH rating.

jb542 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:07:08 AM »

TAR Episode 1 Premiered with a 1.2 rating in 18-49 demo. Down 0.4 from last years premiere, but improved the time slot.

TheRabbi · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:16:14 AM »

I think, all things considered, it's a pretty decent result. It's better than what has been in the time slot this year (Seal team, Million dollar Mile, World's Best), and while it's lower than last year's premiere, last year was in January, which is a much more watched TV-time than April. I think it's pretty solid.

jb542 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2019, 11:02:57 AM »

Quote from: TheRabbi on April 18, 2019, 10:16:14 AM

I think, all things considered, it's a pretty decent result. It's better than what has been in the time slot this year (Seal team, Million dollar Mile, World's Best), and while it's lower than last year's premiere, last year was in January, which is a much more watched TV-time than April. I think it's pretty solid.

It did great for it being off for over a year. 1.2 is definitely great for CBS since most of their shows except for a few are below a 1.0.

docol · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2019, 01:23:33 PM »

CBS – “The Amazing Race” (season premiere): 3.6/ 6 (#1)

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-overnights-positive-return-for-the-amazing-race-on-cbs/ 9:00 PM

CBS – “The Amazing Race” (season premiere): 3.5/ 6 (#1)

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-overnights-positive-return-for-the-amazing-race-on-cbs/

Source: https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-overnights-positive-return-for-the-amazing-race-on-cbs/

georgiapeach · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2019, 01:25:06 PM »

Thanks docol!

I ♥ TAR · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2019, 03:48:13 PM »

ABC – “Modern Family” (R): 2.1/ 4 (#4)
CBS – “The Amazing Race” (season premiere): 3.6/ 6 (#1)
NBC – “Chicago Fire” (R): 2.7/ 5 (#2)
Fox – “Star”: 2.6/ 4 (#3)
CW – “Jane the Virgin”: 0.6/ 1 (#5)

I am not really understanding these numbers but this seems like really good result to me? Comparing it with other show that night... Number one baby. <3 It beat (once) popular show like Modern Family and Chicago Fire!!! I really hope it can keep on...

theschnauzers · « **Reply #7 on:** April 18, 2019, 07:56:59 PM »

The other comparison mentioned in some of the reports on the overnight ratings was with Criminal Minds a year ago, where TAR’s overnight numbers in demo and total audience was an even 20 percent increase. Given how broadcast network numbers tend to drift downwards from year to year, that’s like the TAR 30 performance in the winter of 2018.

Maanca · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2019, 03:27:36 AM »

Not as strong as TAR30's start, which got over 7 million

I hate to admit the Jess & Cody fans may not have been entirely wrong, lol

Marionete · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2019, 04:32:14 AM »

5.74m viewers and a 1.2 versus 7.89m and 1.5 for Survivor's lead-in episode.

jb542 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2019, 06:03:16 AM »

Quote from: Maanca on April 19, 2019, 03:27:36 AM

Not as strong as TAR30's start, which got over 7 million

I hate to admit the Jess & Cody fans may not have been entirely wrong, lol

I don't think it was all because of Jess and Cody. TAR30 premiered the first week of January and people were still home on vacation.

jb542 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 19, 2019, 06:25:06 AM »

One of the headlines about TAR's ratings from yesterday

‘The Amazing Race’ 31st Season Premiere Posts CBS’ Best Non-‘Survivor’ Adults 18-49 Performance Within Time Slot Since ‘Big Brother 20’ Finale"

https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-final-ratings-the-amazing-race-31st-season-premiere-posts-cbs-best-non-survivor-adults-18-49-performance-within-time-slot-since-big-bro/

TheRabbi · « **Reply #12 on:** April 19, 2019, 06:36:36 AM »

Quote from: I ♥ TAR on April 18, 2019, 03:48:13 PM

ABC – “Modern Family” (R): 2.1/ 4 (#4)
CBS – “The Amazing Race” (season premiere): 3.6/ 6 (#1)
NBC – “Chicago Fire” (R): 2.7/ 5 (#2)
Fox – “Star”: 2.6/ 4 (#3)
CW – “Jane the Virgin”: 0.6/ 1 (#5)

I am not really understanding these numbers but this seems like really good result to me? Comparing it with other show that night... Number one baby. <3 It beat (once) popular show like Modern Family and Chicago Fire!!! I really hope it can keep on...

Keep in mind the (R) next to Modern Family and Chicago Fire indicates they were both reruns, so TAR had very little competition this week.

The 1.2 rating is fine. Just keep in mind that premieres are generally the highest rated episodes, so if it goes down in the coming weeks (when the other shows aren't in reruns), then the ratings won't look that great. But it's off to a fine start.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2019, 05:48:09 AM »

Also keep in mind that season 30 was in the 8pm timeslot for the first half of that season, then shifted to 9pm. So the fact season 30 had higher numbers for the premiere in live plus same day can at least be partly attributable to that.
Nor is it clear whether TAR will shift to the 8pm hour after Survivor ends which was the original plan for May 22nd, or what CBS is going to do. A weaker lead-in wouldn’t be helpful.

jb542 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2019, 08:45:18 AM »

Quote from: theschnauzers on April 21, 2019, 05:48:09 AM

Also keep in mind that season 30 was in the 8pm timeslot for the first half of that season, then shifted to 9pm. So the fact season 30 had higher numbers for the premiere in live plus same day can at least be partly attributable to that.
Nor is it clear whether TAR will shift to the 8pm hour after Survivor ends which was the original plan for May 22nd, or what CBS is going to do. A weaker lead-in wouldn’t be helpful.

I think CBS will move it up to 8pm and have 2 hour episodes until the finale. Just speculation though.

jb542 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 22, 2019, 10:58:50 AM »

The Amazing Race Premiere grew 33% in DVR 3 Day delayed viewing to a 1.6. Viewership grew from 5.74M viewers to 7.15M viewers.

https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-final-ratings-the-amazing-race-31st-season-premiere-posts-cbs-best-non-survivor-adults-18-49-performance-within-time-slot-since-big-bro/

jb542 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 25, 2019, 07:57:14 AM »

TAR Overnight HH Ratings:
This week TAR got a 3.0 in HH ratings. Last week, it had a 3.6.

jb542 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 25, 2019, 10:06:13 AM »

TAR Episode 2 got a 1.0 rating in 18-49 demo. Down 0.2 from the premiere. Still not bad as nothing else on CBS this year has been able to get that or higher.

The halves were 1.1/1.0 so it could possibly adjust up. TAR improved CBS' 9pm Wednesday Time Slot by 20% from last year.

RaceUntilWeDie · « **Reply #18 on:** April 25, 2019, 12:11:57 PM »

Why are so many Survivor viewers checking out before TAR

jb542 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 25, 2019, 12:49:48 PM »

Quote from: RaceUntilWeDie on April 25, 2019, 12:11:57 PM

Why are so many Survivor viewers checking out before TAR

I think it has to do with the time TAR is on. The first half of TAR rates well. The second half drops off probably because of families going to sleep.

TheRabbi · « **Reply #20 on:** April 25, 2019, 01:26:46 PM »

The 9 pm hour is more watched than the 8 pm hour. Unfortunately, Survivor is just a more popular show and always has been. Hopefully CBS is at least taking note of how TAR is improving the slot over everything that has aired there this season, and that it's rating higher than a majority of their shows currently on.

jb542 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 25, 2019, 01:42:33 PM »

Quote from: TheRabbi on April 25, 2019, 01:26:46 PM

The 9 pm hour is more watched than the 8 pm hour. Unfortunately, Survivor is just a more popular show and always has been. Hopefully CBS is at least taking note of how TAR is improving the slot over everything that has aired there this season, and that it's rating higher than a majority of their shows currently on.

I'm actually impressed on how well TAR is doing. It's doing amazing (pun intended) for a show that was only given about 10-12 days to promote along with premiering in April (a low rated month for TV)

dryedmangoez · « **Reply #22 on:** April 25, 2019, 01:59:01 PM »

Also have to remember that as a business model, scripted shows have more value for the networks than reality shows in syndication such as the streaming and international market. Which is why CBS can keep shows like Elementary and others going because they still make money for them in the afterlife even if their ratings are absurdly low.

So in that sense, TAR might have a higher bar to clear than a scripted drama would when it comes to CBS' scheduling decisions.

jb542 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 26, 2019, 01:31:43 PM »

TAR31 Episode 1 grew 48% in +7 DVR to a 1.8 18-49 demo rating with 7.69M Viewers

Source: https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-final-ratings-the-amazing-race-31st-season-premiere-posts-cbs-best-non-survivor-adults-18-49-performance-within-time-slot-since-big-bro/

Hubickichibi · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2019, 01:30:20 AM »

Quote from: TheRabbi on April 25, 2019, 01:26:46 PM

The 9 pm hour is more watched than the 8 pm hour. Unfortunately, Survivor is just a more popular show and always has been. Hopefully CBS is at least taking note of how TAR is improving the slot over everything that has aired there this season, and that it's rating higher than a majority of their shows currently on.

all this time i thought TAR is more popular than survivor

true survivor have more loyal fanbase, but i thought TAR attract more casual viewer

Lemontail · « **Reply #25 on:** April 28, 2019, 01:36:59 AM »

Quote from: Hubickichibi on April 28, 2019, 01:30:20 AM

Quote from: TheRabbi on April 25, 2019, 01:26:46 PM
The 9 pm hour is more watched than the 8 pm hour. Unfortunately, Survivor is just a more popular show and always has been. Hopefully CBS is at least taking note of how TAR is improving the slot over everything that has aired there this season, and that it's rating higher than a majority of their shows currently on.

all this time i thought TAR is more popular than survivor
true survivor have more loyal fanbase, but i thought TAR attract more casual viewer

Uh, Survivor did gain over 50 million viewers for its first season finale back in 2000.

Hubickichibi · « **Reply #26 on:** April 28, 2019, 06:56:21 PM »

Quote from: Lemontail on April 28, 2019, 01:36:59 AM

Uh, Survivor did gain over 50 million viewers for its first season finale back in 2000.

mmh that explain why they do survivor twice a year and TAR only once per year, i thought all this time its because TAR is way more expensive to produce

but in last decade, BB and TAR attract more casual viewer ie younger audience than survivor

Marionete · « **Reply #27 on:** April 28, 2019, 07:29:11 PM »

Quote from: Hubickichibi on April 28, 2019, 06:56:21 PM

but in last decade, BB and TAR attract more casual viewer ie younger audience than survivor

No.

GabyM · « **Reply #28 on:** April 28, 2019, 07:52:07 PM »

Quote from: Hubickichibi on April 28, 2019, 06:56:21 PM

Quote from: Lemontail on April 28, 2019, 01:36:59 AM
Uh, Survivor did gain over 50 million viewers for its first season finale back in 2000.

mmh that explain why they do survivor twice a year and TAR only once per year, i thought all this time its because TAR is way more expensive to produce
but in last decade, BB and TAR attract more casual viewer ie younger audience than survivor

Wrong, because Survivor attracts the young/casual viewers too

jb542 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 02, 2019, 10:11:03 AM »

Last nights TAR got a 0.9 rating in 18-49

TheRabbi · « **Reply #30 on:** May 02, 2019, 10:15:25 AM »

It also had a full slate of competition, even higher than usual, as the Billboard Music Awards were on NBC and dominated the night easily, plus ABC's comedies returned with new episodes. I'm curious to see how it will do starting 5/22 when it moves up to 8pm and Survivor is done. Would be nice to see it stay steady.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #31 on:** May 02, 2019, 04:07:17 PM »

Quote from: TheRabbi on May 02, 2019, 10:15:25 AM

It also had a full slate of competition, even higher than usual, as the Billboard Music Awards were on NBC and dominated the night easily, plus ABC's comedies returned with new episodes. I'm curious to see how it will do starting 5/22 when it moves up to 8pm and Survivor is done. Would be nice to see it stay steady.

Agree...but the DVR ratings are what's key...

theschnauzers · « **Reply #32 on:** May 03, 2019, 10:40:19 PM »

I’m hopeful that will get some more live plus three data, which tends to show a majorly burst of growth where TAR is concerned.

jb542 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 04, 2019, 05:48:17 AM »

Quote from: theschnauzers on May 03, 2019, 10:40:19 PM

I’m hopeful that will get some more live plus three data, which tends to show a majorly burst of growth where TAR is concerned.

+3 Data so far:
Episode 1: 1.6 (Up from 1.2) +0.4
Episode 2: 1.4 (Up From 1.0) +0.4

Source: https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-final-ratings-tnt-tops-prime-time-key-young-adult-and-male-demos-with-nba-playoff-doubleheader/

theschnauzers · « **Reply #34 on:** May 04, 2019, 03:44:09 PM »

That

Quote from: jb542 on May 04, 2019, 05:48:17 AM

Quote from: theschnauzers on May 03, 2019, 10:40:19 PM
I’m hopeful that will get some more live plus three data, which tends to show a majorly burst of growth where TAR is concerned.

+3 Data so far:
Episode 1: 1.6 (Up from 1.2) +0.4
Episode 2: 1.4 (Up From 1.0) +0.4

Source: https://programminginsider.com/wednesday-final-ratings-tnt-tops-prime-time-key-young-adult-and-male-demos-with-nba-playoff-doubleheader/

So in percentages it between 33 and 40 percent.
That source also has the total viewer data which also reflects a similar percent growth:

Quote

#24 Amazing Race (CBS, Wed. 4/24/19) +1.588m (L+SD: 4.650m; L+3: 6.238m)

It seems to me that the show hasn’t lost any viewers from TAR 30 in the 9 pm hour. I just think we’ll do better once the shift to 8pm takes place on May 22.

jb542 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 04, 2019, 05:16:12 PM »

TAR +7 Data so far:
Episode 1: 1.8 (+0.6)
Episode 2: 1.6 (+0.6)

Source: ProgrammingInsider

TheRabbi · « **Reply #36 on:** May 09, 2019, 01:56:13 PM »

Last night's episode was down yet another tick to a 0.8.

That's a 1.2, 1.0, 0.9, and 0.8 for the first 4 episodes (Live numbers). Not a great trend, but here's hoping it stabilizes once it moves to 8 pm.

Hubickichibi · « **Reply #37 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:35:12 PM »

I dont understand, why is Survivor gain more viewers and ratings, since TAR is more lighthearted and family friendly, while survivor have more adult content

I ♥ TAR · « **Reply #38 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:54:29 PM »

Quote from: Hubickichibi on May 09, 2019, 02:35:12 PM

I dont understand, why is Survivor gain more viewers and ratings, since TAR is more lighthearted and family friendly, while survivor have more adult content

And unlike Survivor, TAR is still able to produce decent seasons.

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Ratings are ok, I guess, but definitely not high enough to guarantee fall spot for TAR32.

Hubickichibi · « **Reply #39 on:** May 09, 2019, 06:21:11 PM »

Quote from: I ♥ TAR on May 09, 2019, 03:54:29 PM

And unlike Survivor, TAR is still able to produce decent seasons.

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Ratings are ok, I guess, but definitely not high enough to guarantee fall spot for TAR32.

nooo, please let TAR32 in fall

TheRabbi · « **Reply #40 on:** May 09, 2019, 08:35:08 PM »

CBS renewed the bulk of their lineup today, and ordered a bunch of new series. I'd honestly be surprised to see it on the fall schedule. We'll find out next week.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #41 on:** May 09, 2019, 08:38:55 PM »

I’m as concerned about live plus same day data as I am live plus three and live plus seven. Live plus seven tends to be very consistent. Plus this is graduation week at many high schools and colleges and vacation season, so that may be a factor this week.

CBS tends to pick up series to air in mid season now. One just renewed series, Bull, Ian alredy in trouble as Steven Spielberg and in Ambon Entertainment studio have quit as executive process on the series just after renewal announcement.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #42 on:** May 22, 2019, 10:03:21 PM »

Here’s the live plus seven data for episode 4:

In the demo, live plus 7:
#16 Amazing Race (CBS, Wed. 5/08/19) +0.57 (L+SD: 0.83; L+7: 1.40)
That’s about a 70 percent gain over live plus same day.

In the total audience, live plus 7:
#29 Amazing Race (CBS, Wed. 5/08/19) +1.979m (L+SD: 4.434m; L+7: 6.413m) about a 50 per cent gain over live plus same day.

https://programminginsider.com/live7-weekly-ratings-whiskey-cavalier-leads-in-percentage-gains-with-viewers-and-demos/

TheRabbi · « **Reply #43 on:** May 23, 2019, 10:14:37 AM »

0.9 for the 8 pm hour, 0.7 for the 9 pm her, per showbuzz daily.

CBS should know by now that TAR is an 8 pm show. I'd say that's a solid result for the 8 pm hour, since it is higher than it's most recent episode 2 weeks ago, despite being out of Survivor's shadow.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #44 on:** May 31, 2019, 11:32:45 PM »

May 31, 2019

Top 40 broadcast network programs in Live+3 Day raw gains among adults 18-49 ratings

#12 Amazing Race (9:00) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +0.36 (L+SD: 0.68; L+3: 1.04)
#14 Amazing Race (8:00) (S) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +0.33 (L+SD: 0.82; L+3: 1.15)

Top 40 broadcast network programs in Live+3 Day raw gains among total viewers

#13 Amazing Race (9:00) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +1.462m (L+SD: 3.727m; L+3: 5.189m)
#14 Amazing Race (8:00) (S) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +1.295m (L+SD: 4.243m; L+3: 5.538m)

Top 40 broadcast network programs in Live+3 Day percentage gains among adults 18-49

#12 Amazing Race (9:00) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +39.23% (L+SD: 3.727m; L+3: 5.189m)
#20 Amazing Race (8:00) (S) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +30.52% (L+SD: 4.243m; L+3: 5.538m)

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/live3-weekly-ratings-chicago-pd-season-finale-tops-all-raw-lifts-for-final-week-of-traditional-tv-season/

georgiapeach · « **Reply #45 on:** May 31, 2019, 11:33:21 PM »

9 PM did very well?

dryedmangoez · « **Reply #46 on:** June 01, 2019, 12:36:57 AM »

Those numbers just show more people DVRd the 9pm episode, thus the higher percentage gain.
But the total viewers for the 9pm ep still lower than the 8pm ep.

Basically, more people watched live at 8pm than 9pm.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #47 on:** June 01, 2019, 09:08:37 AM »

Quote from: dryedmangoez on June 01, 2019, 12:36:57 AM

Those numbers just show more people DVRd the 9pm episode, thus the higher percentage gain.
But the total viewers for the 9pm ep still lower than the 8pm ep.

Basically, more people watched live at 8pm than 9pm.

What I have heard is that the delayed views are hugely important as well. I think that may be a big factor for our renewals. Just as much if not more than live.

dryedmangoez · « **Reply #48 on:** June 01, 2019, 02:30:07 PM »

Yes, but with regards to the 8pm vs 9pm debate, the numbers show (more so during TAR30) that more people watched live at 8pm than 9pm. And in fact, people actually tuned out at 9pm. Which of course was odd considering how the eps were edited last year in a seamless way. But maybe not if a chunk of families tuned out as well if 9pm was too late for the kiddies.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #49 on:** June 01, 2019, 03:54:24 PM »

Just still reinforcing that the live views may not be the most important.

Could be a factor though if we are being considered for a 9PM slot sometime....

But the DVR views are serious as well and we seem to be doing well there!

theschnauzers · « **Reply #50 on:** June 01, 2019, 07:01:50 PM »

As we’ve seen in the pre May 15th episodes, there’s consistently been another noticeable bump up with live plus seven numbers. And some local markets have had to deal with severe weather and pro sports playoffs (NBA and NHL) which also affect live numbers and live plus same day.

Marionete · « **Reply #51 on:** June 02, 2019, 05:27:42 PM »

I don't understand how live numbers could be less important when the vast majority just forwards through the ads in DVRs.
I just seriously don't get it, and this has been a point rammed into the ground over and over again by certain people.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #52 on:** June 02, 2019, 06:53:58 PM »

Quote from: Marionete on June 02, 2019, 05:27:42 PM

I don't understand how live numbers could be less important when the vast majority just forwards through the ads in DVRs.
I just seriously don't get it, and this has been a point rammed into the ground over and over again by certain people.

Because broadcasters and streamers have confirmed through years of research that an increasing percentage of viewers time shift their viewing. The thing to keep in mind, is the different shows have different levels of time shifted viewing. For TAR, that percentage seven days out is a 40 plus percent increase in the 18-49 demo, and 50 percent among total viewers. Others shows can be higher or lower, thus it can’t be assumed that live audiences will show the whole viewership story. Off the top of my head, TAR 31 in both categories after 7 days is running even with TAR 30, thus supporting that argument that the Wednesday night time slot is an advantage.

Marionete · « **Reply #53 on:** June 02, 2019, 07:24:39 PM »

You talked about something completely unrelated to my question, lol.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #54 on:** June 02, 2019, 08:31:33 PM »

Then maybe you need to better express your question. That was the best I could respond to what you asked.

ghostbusted · « **Reply #55 on:** June 02, 2019, 11:17:00 PM »

I will try to weigh in on the question. I think the question concerns whether advertisers derive any benefit from time shifted viewers that would justify being concerned with the plus x day ratings. I know that I, personally, time shift many shows that I watch just so that I can use the 'wonderful' skip button on my Tivo. Therefore, my watching wouldn't benefit advertisers very much since I don't see their ads.

TheRabbi · « **Reply #56 on:** June 03, 2019, 09:45:22 AM »

DVR numbers are nice, but don't be fooled into thinking that Live numbers aren't important. For the most part, the biggest benefits in DVR gainers are the biggest rated shows to begin with. It's extremely rare to see a show that doesn't rate very well in Live ratings add more than other shows in DVR. Your Big Bang Theory's and Walking Deads are always going to be the biggest DVR gainers, as they are the biggest shows. Generally, the rich get richer and the poor get slightly less poor.

And I know I'll get countered with "percentage increase" arguments, but those are pointless. Would a network rather have a show add 75% of a 0.8 Live rating and get to a 1.4 after 7 days, or add 20% of a 1.5 Live rating and get to a 1.8?

If you want to help the show, stream it on CBS's website (I know it used to free, I'm not sure if it's locked behind All Access now). Only Nielsen homes get counted in Live or DVR ratings, but CBS gets to see exactly how many people stream on their sites. Also, throw out some #AmazingRace tweets during an episode, as social engagement is measured now as well, and it's only a matter of time before that factors into advertising as well (if it doesn't already).

Marionete · « **Reply #57 on:** June 03, 2019, 02:30:36 PM »

Quote from: theschnauzers on June 02, 2019, 08:31:33 PM

Then maybe you need to better express your question. That was the best I could respond to what you asked.

I'm saying that I don't understand the delusions in looking at the poor ratings/viewerships TAR has been getting in recent years and saying it's fine because adding DVR numbers make it decent.
I have no idea why advertisers would show a huge interest in shows that only rank high after DVR stuff is added in when, you know, the people watching DVRs have and take the option to forward through all the pesky ads?

theschnauzers · « **Reply #58 on:** June 03, 2019, 04:28:08 PM »

Marionette, all broadcast shows have suffered substantial ratings declines every year for about the last ten years. So a viable show now needs a lower threshold than it used to.

And TheRabbi, the ability to track viewership has vastly improved over the last ten years for everything except viewers using over the air antennas. The ability exists for cable providers, streaming services, such as DirectvNow, as well as more specific streaming apps to track what all their subscribers are watching live or time shifted. This is so different than what it was even 5 years ago.

TheRabbi · « **Reply #59 on:** June 03, 2019, 06:55:35 PM »

That's why I said to go stream it on CBS. Streaming is trackable. But for the many, many people still watching on traditional cable (and DVR), the only way you're [legally] getting tracked is if you have a Nielsen box.

Yes, the standards for renewing shows has changed significantly in the last 5-10 years in regards to raw numbers, but Live ratings are still important and should not be overlooked. Shows with bad Live numbers are still getting canceled. I didn't hear much about the World's Best at CBS's upfront. It had terrible ratings and was canceled.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #60 on:** June 04, 2019, 12:48:49 AM »

Just to be clear on what I was saying, cable and streaming services now have the capacity using technology from Nielsen and other to track viewing of all channels on their systems. My viewing TAR on either Directv Now, or CBS All Access gets tracked either way. That’s one of the differences that has rapidly spread in the past five years, and how they’re fully able to have live plus 30 data. You don’t have to be a Nielsen household anymore unless you watch CBS over the air without a cable or streaming service.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #61 on:** June 05, 2019, 08:11:29 AM »

^^ Which is actually kind of creepy....

theschnauzers · « **Reply #62 on:** June 05, 2019, 04:27:45 PM »

Live plus seven days in 18 to 49 demo:

#13 Amazing Race (8:00) (S) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +0.48 (L+SD: 0.82; L+7: 1.30)

#9 Amazing Race (9:00) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +0.56 (L+SD: 0.67; L+7: 1.23)

Live plus seven days in total audience:

#13 Amazing Race (8:00) (S) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +1.837m (L+SD: 4.243m; L+7: 6.080m)

#11 Amazing Race (9:00) (CBS, Wed. 5/22/19) +2.153m (L+SD: 3.704m; L+7: 5.857m)

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/live7-weekly-ratings-live-in-front-of-a-studio-audience-ranks-among-top-ten-in-raw-gains/

georgiapeach · « **Reply #63 on:** June 06, 2019, 12:15:13 PM »

NBC's American Ninja Warrior led Wednesday's non-sports offerings in primetime with a 0.9 rating among adults 18-49, followed closely by The Amazing Race (0.

on CBS. The latter had a small edge in total viewers with 4.65 million to 4.34 million for Ninja Warrior.

The NBA Finals put up consistent ratings on Wednesday, once again carrying ABC to an easy win for the night.

As was the case with the first two games of the series, however, Game 3 was down significantly year to year.

ABC's live broadcast of the Toronto Raptors' 123-109 win over the Golden State Warriors drew a 10.0 household rating in metered markets, in line with the 10.1 and 10.2 for the first two contests. That's off 21 percent from a preliminary 12.7 in 2018 and the lowest for Game 3 of the series since 2013 (also 10.0).

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/nba-finals-remain-low-tv-ratings-wednesday-june-5-2019-1216243

Marionete · « **Reply #64 on:** June 06, 2019, 06:11:47 PM »

Quote from: theschnauzers on June 03, 2019, 04:28:08 PM

Marionette, all broadcast shows have suffered substantial ratings declines every year for about the last ten years. So a viable show now needs a lower threshold than it used to.

Yet another unrelated fact.
The ads. I'm talking about the ads and the advertisers. Those are the primary reasons why I don't see networks caring too much about live +something numbers.

P.S. that's not my username

TheRabbi · « **Reply #65 on:** June 07, 2019, 06:24:11 AM »

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-5-2019.html Race adjusted up in the final Wednesday numbers to a 0.9 rating, tying Ninja Warrior in the slot, and improving week to week. Definitely good news! It really is a shame CBS has kind of squashed this show recently. It clearly can hold its own. We were all excited when 2 seasons filmed last year, but that hasn't altered CBS's scheduling of it.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #66 on:** June 11, 2019, 04:53:34 PM »

Live plus 7 days in points and percentages for 18 to 49 demo:
#4 Amazing Race (P) (CBS, Wed. 5/29/19) +0.49 (L+SD: 0.81; L+7: 1.30)
#10 Amazing Race (P) (CBS, Wed. 5/29/19) +61% (L+SD: 0.81; L+7: 1.30)

Live plus 7 days in millions and percentages for total viewers:
#5 Amazing Race (P) (CBS, Wed. 5/29/19) +1.777m (L+SD: 4.748m; L+7: 6.525m)
#12 Amazing Race (P) (CBS, Wed. 5/29/19) +37.43% (L+SD: 4.748m; L+7: 6.525m)

The key here is that the numbers remained fairly consistent for TAR 31 regardless of whether it’s at 8pm or 9pm, and consistent with TAR 30, essentially showing that Wednesday nights have been better than the time slots of other recent seasons.

https://programminginsider.com/live7-weekly-ratings-americas-got-talent-season-premiere-leads-in-overall-gains/

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