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Offline Plaidmoon

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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1600 on: October 17, 2017, 12:59:43 AM »
I wouldn't put too much significance to the ice cream. It was a warm day, 93F (34C) at the Harare airport. Fortunately, it wasn"t humid. I imagine that after working hard and running around in the hot sun, ice cream would be a welcome and refreshing treat. I could see a connection to the greeter that has been suggested. I sure hope they didn't send everybody to Zimbabwe and have the teams make ice cream.

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« Reply #1601 on: October 17, 2017, 01:01:37 AM »
I wouldn't put too much significance to the ice cream. It was a warm day, 93F (34C) at the Harare airport. Fortunately, it wasn"t humid. I imagine that after working hard and running around in the hot sun, ice cream would be a welcome and refreshing treat. I could see a connection to the greeter that has been suggested. I sure hope they didn't send everybody to Zimbabwe and have the teams make ice cream.

In the picture I posted in sightings you can see an ice cream cart with a guy chilling on the side. Maybe the man just felt nice.


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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1602 on: October 17, 2017, 01:26:05 AM »
Looks like we have a Twin sighting thanks to new member yankeeshan!

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« Reply #1603 on: October 17, 2017, 01:29:18 AM »
Looks like we have a Twin sighting thanks to new member yankeeshan!



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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1604 on: October 17, 2017, 02:18:06 AM »
Hi long time lurker but first time poster, really appreciate what you guys do here for fans :)

So I was trying to take a look at the shadows from the pic of the Surfers compared to the one of Jess and Cody.

Here's a little graphic I quickly did up from an image of the intersection off of Google maps...



The A is the Topics, the B is the Cabo/Capo building seen behind Jess and Cody, and the C is approximately where the Zimbabwe Bank seen behind Phil would be.  The red line represents a guess at the angle of the mat with Phil facing towards B.

Anyway, in the picture with the Surfers, the cameraman's shadow lines up with the angle of the mat, whereas in Jess and Cody's pic it a building's shadow (probably C) is going across the mat.  This suggests Surfers arrived before noon while Jess/Cody arrived in the afternoon, considering that in the Southern Hemisphere after the spring equinox the sun rises and sets to the south of due east.  Assuming the Surfers/Skiers arrived close together, both would be ahead of Jess/Cody.

Could be completely off-base, but figured I'd give a crack at it :)


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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1605 on: October 17, 2017, 02:21:29 AM »
Awesome Thanks!! Will try to drag our NASA genius in the morning to help check in on this too! Thank you very much!!
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« Reply #1606 on: October 17, 2017, 03:43:36 AM »
There is one picture that shows "Batanai Gardens" behind Phil.  This building is located further down First streeet at the next intersection (Jason Moyo Ave) below the picture above.

This would place the pitstop underneath the tree on First St and not as depicted under the tree on George Silundika Ave.

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« Reply #1607 on: October 17, 2017, 03:52:32 AM »
There is one picture that shows "Batanai Gardens" behind Phil.  This building is located further down First streeet at the next intersection (Jason Moyo Ave) below the picture above.

This would place the pitstop underneath the tree on First St and not as depicted under the tree on George Silundika Ave.

I was wondering what that was... The shadows make a lot more sense that way also to line up with the mat.

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« Reply #1608 on: October 17, 2017, 04:01:42 AM »
After reading the discussion about shadows and sadly realizing that I have forgotten most of the celestial navigation that I learned, I came across this site that might be of help to someone.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php

I hope someone can apply this information to the map information to possibly determine shadow directions and times. I think the direction would be azimuth + 180 degrees. (minus 360 if > 360)
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« Reply #1609 on: October 17, 2017, 04:16:06 AM »
Ignore the posted table. I did not input the lat and long as needed. This should be better.

HARARE, ZIMBABWE                                                             
   o  ,    o  ,                                                               
E 31 02, S17 49
                                                             
Altitude and Azimuth of the Sun                                               
Oct 15, 2017
                                                                 
Zone:  2h East of Greenwich
                                                 
          Altitude    Azimuth                                                 
                      (E of N)
                                               
 h  m         o           o                                                   
                                                                             
                                                                             
04:40      -11.8       103.1
04:50       -9.5       102.2
05:00       -7.2       101.4
05:10       -4.8       100.6
05:20       -2.5        99.8
05:30        0.4        99.0
05:40        2.5        98.3
05:50        4.7        97.5
06:00        7.1        96.8
06:10        9.4        96.1
06:20       11.7        95.4
06:30       14.1        94.6
06:40       16.5        93.9
06:50       18.8        93.2
07:00       21.2        92.5
07:10       23.6        91.8
07:20       26.0        91.0
07:30       28.3        90.3
07:40       30.7        89.5
07:50       33.1        88.7
08:00       35.5        87.9
08:10       37.9        87.1
08:20       40.2        86.2
08:30       42.6        85.3
08:40       45.0        84.3
08:50       47.3        83.3
09:00       49.7        82.2
09:10       52.1        81.0
09:20       54.4        79.7
09:30       56.7        78.3
09:40       59.1        76.7
09:50       61.4        74.9
10:00       63.7        72.9
10:10       65.9        70.6
10:20       68.1        67.8
10:30       70.3        64.5
10:40       72.4        60.5
10:50       74.5        55.5
11:00       76.3        49.1
11:10       78.0        41.0
11:20       79.4        30.5
11:30       80.4        17.5
11:40       80.8         2.5
11:50       80.6       347.2
12:00       79.8       333.4
12:10       78.5       322.1
12:20       76.9       313.2
12:30       75.1       306.3
12:40       73.1       300.9
12:50       71.0       296.6
13:00       68.9       293.1
13:10       66.7       290.2
13:20       64.4       287.7
13:30       62.1       285.6
13:40       59.8       283.7
13:50       57.5       282.1
14:00       55.2       280.6
14:10       52.8       279.3
14:20       50.5       278.1
14:30       48.1       276.9
14:40       45.8       275.9
14:50       43.4       274.9
15:00       41.0       274.0
15:10       38.7       273.1
15:20       36.3       272.2
15:30       33.9       271.4
15:40       31.5       270.6
15:50       29.2       269.8
16:00       26.8       269.1
16:10       24.4       268.3
16:20       22.0       267.6
16:30       19.7       266.9
16:40       17.3       266.1
16:50       14.9       265.4
17:00       12.6       264.7
17:10       10.2       264.0
17:20        7.9       263.3
17:30        5.5       262.5
17:40        3.3       261.8
17:50        1.1       261.0
18:00       -1.7       260.3
18:10       -4.0       259.5
18:20       -6.3       258.7
18:30       -8.7       257.8
18:40      -11.0       257.0


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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1610 on: October 17, 2017, 04:32:40 AM »
Here is another site that the detectives may want to try out.

http://www.findmyshadow.com/


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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1611 on: October 17, 2017, 04:41:50 AM »
Do we think we will have a second leg in Zimbabwe?
HOWE DOES HE DO THAT?

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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1612 on: October 17, 2017, 05:18:55 AM »
YES. Visiting an african nation for just one leg seems absurd to even begin with. 2 legs here, then they'll move to asia for the rest

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« Reply #1613 on: October 17, 2017, 05:20:00 AM »
Based on the above table my estimates for shadow angles.

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« Reply #1614 on: October 17, 2017, 05:48:00 AM »
YES. Visiting an african nation for just one leg seems absurd to even begin with. 2 legs here, then they'll move to asia for the rest

They only did a leg in Morocco.
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« Reply #1615 on: October 17, 2017, 06:13:14 AM »
YES. Visiting an african nation for just one leg seems absurd to even begin with. 2 legs here, then they'll move to asia for the rest

They only did a leg in Morocco.

But if this is NEL as is being speculated, then another leg will happen here.

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« Reply #1616 on: October 17, 2017, 06:18:38 AM »
 
" don't know anything about the next leg yet... but I was looking at flights out of johannesbirg tomorrow and only 3 possible locations that seem to make sense...

Dubai at 1030
hong kong at 1230
singapore at 145

I think Hong Kong or Singapore may be more likely "

Which means after we are done with zimbabwe with possibly 2 legs, we MIGHT move to asia and hongkong, singapore are the topmost countries to be visited!!
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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1617 on: October 17, 2017, 06:19:03 AM »
SPECULATION!

That could probably an extended pit stop in Harare before heading towards Southeast Asia for the next leg. A Speed Bump will be seen there.

Hong Kong or Singapore are probable connections towards on flights to Southeast Asia. Thailand or Cambodia perhaps.
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« Reply #1618 on: October 17, 2017, 06:35:53 AM »
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You two should go to the top of this page and read what Georgiapeach had to say about recent behavior. Obviously you haven't read it.

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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1619 on: October 17, 2017, 08:37:44 AM »
The photo of the mat at the pitstop from the person who saw the twins is practically completely shaded...

There was more sun on the mat in the photos with the other people.  I guess it doesn't really help though as it could mean they came earlier before the sun was completely up or later when it was going down, but interesting to note.

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« Reply #1620 on: October 17, 2017, 08:59:37 AM »


Dubai, Hong Kong, and Singapore are good connection countries which opens up a lot of possibilities as to where they are headed next. They'll most likely go to Southeast Asia if they decided to connect via Hong Kong and Singapore.
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« Reply #1621 on: October 17, 2017, 09:05:32 AM »
In the picture of the twins. They guy in front of them with a baseball cap looking like heís chatting with a few women. Could it be another racer? Or maybe just crew.

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« Reply #1622 on: October 17, 2017, 09:19:02 AM »
Looks like Jody got Ice Cream too!

https://twitter.com/teamjody15/status/920292269651095552

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Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
« Reply #1623 on: October 17, 2017, 09:24:19 AM »



Johannesburg airport did provide daily flights to Perth (SAA) and Sydney (Qantas except Wednesday) which means we might not rule out Australia completely yet, but yeah a big jump to Southeast Asia or East Asia are most likely gonna happen.
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« Reply #1624 on: October 17, 2017, 09:24:32 AM »
In the picture of the twins. They guy in front of them with a baseball cap looking like heís chatting with a few women. Could it be another racer? Or maybe just crew.
I believe he might have to much hair to be one of the racers.
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