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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 08:51:17 PM »
I'm ready for the Italian adventure to begin! Cin Cin!
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 08:51:45 PM »
Present! :wohoo: I might chatter less here today because I'm watching with my mom. She dragged me into this when I was just 4 or 5. :hrt:

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 08:53:31 PM »
Starting Lineup:

    Tara and Joey

    Matt and Redmond

    Becca and Floyd

    Vanck and Ashton

    London and Logan

    Brooke and Scott

    Liz and Michael

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 08:54:49 PM »
Wishing for a great episode!  :conf:
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 09:01:15 PM »
And we are on the air!
Previously on TAR, 7 teams traveled to the Norwegian town of Alesund! In the Riadblock, Matt climbed while at the FF, Becca & Floyd went down. At the DT, Vance & Ashton annoyed teams while Liz & Mike annoyed each other. Tara & Joey won the leg while Liz & Mike's Day got worse -  before it got better. 7 teams remain, who will be eliminated next?
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 09:06:19 PM »
We begin the episode with Tara & Joey winning 1st - however they are still racing!

ROUTE INFO: Fly to Milan and travel to Piazza Fontana to find their next clue. They must boook their flights via the Travelocity app!

Matt & Red and Tara & Joey go on same flight and every other team deducing the flights too!
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 09:07:06 PM »
Liz & Mike explode and make a big scene. "this is so stressful!"
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 09:08:22 PM »
Liz & Mike explode and make a big scene. "this is so stressful!"
They quickly reconciliation and leave the stress of last place and Liz's directives taken aback. Everyone on same flight.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 09:09:51 PM »
Teams ride a high speed rail to the airport, and they are shown arriving in Milan AT NIGHT!
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 09:12:13 PM »
Passing car moment!
ROADBLOCK: "Who
One team member must try to spot three different words while completing one lap around the city on a trolley. Meanwhile, they must finish an Italian dinner on the ride in order  to receive their next clue. Combo of TAR17's Ding Ding Detour and TA18's Ferris wheel dinner Detour.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 09:13:43 PM »
Only four team members at a time in the trolley! Logan was left behind and are now in the bottom of the pack. Commercial break.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2017, 09:20:45 PM »
As we return from the break, teams are starting to discover the flags with words. First meal is gnocchi, second is ravioli?. The train returns while a final answer of Cernobbio Concordia Lago

ROUTE INFO: teams must travel to Cenobbio for an overnight rest on a private yacht heading toward Loreto.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2017, 09:22:39 PM »
Scott: "I don't know you!" :lol:
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2017, 09:24:38 PM »
Times available for departure are at the seventh hour (three times I believe: 7;05, 7:15, 7:25). Tara & Joey celebrate with a wine clink on the boat.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2017, 09:26:15 PM »
Times available for departure are at the seventh hour (three times I believe: 7;05, 7:15, 7:25). Tara & Joey celebrate with a wine clink on the boat.
7:05, 7:10, 7:15, 7:20 correction! Kind of.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2017, 09:28:32 PM »
Times available for departure are at the seventh hour (three times I believe: 7;05, 7:15, 7:25). Tara & Joey celebrate with a wine clink on the boat.
7:05, 7:10, 7:15, 7:20 correction! Kind of.
All separate times increments of 5 minutes.

ROUTE INFO: Teams must travel to a specified garden for their next clue. Caution: Pre-Detour U-Turn ahead!
 
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2017, 09:34:08 PM »
Back from the commercial break, Tara & Joey decide to not U-Turn!

DETOUR: Make A Mold or Grab A Hold
In MAM, teams must construct a ghost out of plaster wrapping a teammate to receive their next clue.
In GAH, teams must climb the face of a 90-ft rock to receive their next clue.

Liz & Mike U-Turn Vanck & Ashton!

Butcher and auctioneer want to pull a Twinnies U-Turn move and Becva & floydd follow through.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2017, 09:36:11 PM »
Becca shows her belaying skills with Floyd to prepare him for rock climbing. What an advantage!
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2017, 09:37:58 PM »
The plaster wrapping requires a teammate put on a plastic protective hoodie and place a mesh on the teammate for the plaster to successfully cover the body of the teammate.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2017, 09:39:43 PM »
Brooke: Yes! Yes!!! YES!!!! *hypothetical wine coup break*
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2017, 09:42:41 PM »
ROUTE INFO: Teams must travel by a "Ferrari of the Sea" speedboat to the Pit Stop in Tremezzo Park
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2017, 09:48:05 PM »
Vanck & Ashton found the W-turn in last, so the 2nd U-turn wouldn't have matter whether it was used or not. It was just used for safety measures.

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2017, 09:48:29 PM »
This cast is BRINGING IT which is great because the leg design is kinda awful?

RB - overnight bunch - pre-Detour U-Turn - wildly imbalanced Detour - Pit Stop and the boats are a better form of transportation than taxis so the main factor was how quickly you realized you wanted to rock climb :(

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2017, 09:49:32 PM »
Not a fan of it, but the Twinnies U-Turn move is still one of the best strategies created until now on the race.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2017, 09:49:53 PM »
This cast is BRINGING IT which is great because the leg design is kinda awful?

RB - overnight bunch - pre-Detour U-Turn - wildly imbalanced Detour - Pit Stop and the boats are a better form of transportation than taxis so the main factor was how quickly you realized you wanted to rock climb :(
Lovely location, but a poor choice of tasks and U-Turn timing despite wanting to do the same things they are doing right now.
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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2017, 09:51:30 PM »
And Becca & Floyd pass Matt & Redmond in the saddest foot race ever to claim 1st!!! As the winners of tuisbleg of the race, Team Fun wins a trip from Travelocity to Argentina!
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2017, 09:53:16 PM »
Brooke having a complete meltdown halfway up the rock face and Mike & Liz overtake them.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2017, 09:54:09 PM »
Brooke having a complete meltdown halfway up the rock face and Mike & Liz overtake them.
She seems to be in her zone when she is screaming at the top of her lungs? ???
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2017, 09:55:44 PM »
And Tara & Joey come in 3rd while Liz & Mike and Brooke & Scott follow in 4th and 5th unorthodoxly by just waving at Phil from the boat. wow.
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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2017, 09:57:36 PM »
London & Logan follow in 6th while Vanck & Ashton have a slow montage of them completing the plaster task and arrow last at the Pit Stop in last. Unfortunately, they have been eliminated from the race. :torch:

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2017, 09:59:27 PM »
Next time, teams travel to Venice where teams carry a tune and a grudge.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2017, 10:00:00 PM »
Honestly they had a good sendoff :)
I was expecting Bergen & Kurt style messiness.

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2017, 10:01:45 PM »
Honestly they had a good sendoff :)
I was expecting Bergen & Kurt style messiness.
That happened to Shamir & Sara though.

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2017, 10:04:53 PM »
Horrible leg design carried by this cast.

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2017, 10:05:12 PM »
i thought this leg was terrible expect the roadblock

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2017, 10:06:57 PM »
I definitely think this episode is amazing, as always!  :conf: The night roadblock was great. Plus points to it being a searching task at night. The W-turn before the detour was better this leg because it was right after a task (roadblock). It's definitely better than the W-turn before the Pit Stop which we often saw in the past. Although, it would not have mattered much this leg since everybody was targeting Ashton & Vanck, and they finished the 1st detour in 6th. The detour may have been imbalanced in a way, but more analysis on that later. I like both sides, but I find the ghost task cooler.

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2017, 10:08:36 PM »
A bit unrelated, but I think the W-turn (if placed after the detour) on Leg 4 would be so cruel! }:> I would've loved seeing that.

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2017, 10:12:25 PM »
Vanck & Ashton doing well in a leg they were eliminated in. :torche At least it wasn't a bitter departure for both racers.

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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2017, 10:23:37 PM »
why are you posting three times in a row?  :groan:

Nothing wrong with that. They were unrelated thoughts with some time between each.

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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2017, 10:36:46 PM »
Vanck & Ashton  :haha
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« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2017, 11:14:30 PM »
Vanck & Ashton doing well in a leg they were eliminated in. :torche At least it wasn't a bitter departure for both racers.

Not sure about that. Had they not been U-Turned they would have finished 6th out of 7, assuming they were still last to the board.

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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2017, 11:18:36 PM »
Vanck & Ashton doing well in a leg they were eliminated in. :torche At least it wasn't a bitter departure for both racers.

Not sure about that. Had they not been U-Turned they would have finished 6th out of 7, assuming they were still last to the board.

Oh, I meant between Vanck & Ashton. At least both weren't bitter with each other at this point. Although now that I think of it, they might've been bitter with the other teams. ??? Not sure though.

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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2017, 12:34:03 AM »
What a great location! Bye bye Vantack and Ashton!!!

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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2017, 02:07:12 AM »
The Milan section was amazing. Lake Como not so much. The teams carry this race though.  :conf:

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« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2017, 07:48:21 AM »
The Milan section was amazing. Lake Como not so much. The teams carry this race though.  :conf:

i agree i feel like they should done full leg in miian

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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2017, 09:27:08 AM »
I really hate episodes that are entirely focused on the dang u-turn, an element I've always disliked. I miss when teams simply had to race, instead of getting involved in high school level drama.

I also despise that the u-turn board is now before the detour itself. Before, if you wanted to u-turn a team, you had to at least beat them in part of the race and earn the right. Now it's basically whoever has the best cab can luck into being able to use it.

Shame, because the rest of the episodes, including the scenery and tasks, were lovely

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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2017, 10:17:35 AM »
I think the Double UTurn is really unfair when placed next to the pitstop. I feel bad for V&A. There's clearly no way they could have caught up.

And I am now starting to get annoyed with Brooke. Will there be an episode where she will not complain?

Good decision for Joey and Tara to not use the UTURN. But poor detour choice.
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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2017, 12:13:06 PM »
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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2017, 12:14:44 PM »
Had to rewatch the episode to clarify some things I might've missed. :bump It was also laggy for me during the live earlier.

I'll start with the roadblock. I already said it earlier how cool it was to have a searching task at night. Quite sad Logan couldn't get on the same tram with the 4 racers. The good thing with Mike and Tara working together is that they each had an extra pair of eyes to verify their findings. I'm glad the 4 didn't help each other, but even if they did, none of them found LaGo, so it didn't matter. :lol: What coincidence! LoLo could've sped up to 3rd from there. It was so close! I saw Logan's extra word the 2nd time I watched the episode, and it sucks that he can't try again without going for a 2nd round. One does not simply guess an Italian word out of nowhere, so it's just too bad for Logan that he had to wait and go around once more. Scott's reactions were so funny, and it just keeps popping out of nowhere from time to time. :funny: The roadblock delivered. I think it's the first official night task this season.

The W-turn position was fine being sandwiched between the roadblock and the detour, but I just think it would've been better had teams not been 5 minutes apart of each other. It was too tight for the U-turned team/s to even catch up. Anybody U-turned this leg would surely be out, unless 2 teams are doing it. There's no way to avoid the 5 minutes apart departure though, unless they reformat the leg itself. At first, the W-turn looks fine. However, after taking the morning departure into consideration, I say the W-turn is placed on the wrong leg.

The detour this leg didn't have any sense of balance to me. ??? So the rock climbing task required one person to hold the other, but it had a lot of running and distance just going to the location. I would've said it was a boring but fast task, but Becca and Matt would disagree on the boring part. But wait, the ghost task wasn't fun too. It was boring but cool, but also time consuming. That's part of the reason Joey & Tara only landed a 3rd this leg. Maybe the distance is shorter going from the ghost task to the pit stop, but I don't really seem to find any balance in this leg's detour. The rock climbing does not even look culture related in any way. They probably could've replaced the rock climbing detour with something better, but being surrounded by water not for diving, they have limited choices for tasks. I gotta agree that a leg purely in Milan would've been better. Big bonus points if it would've been a full night leg in Milan. The Lake Como part wasn't that bad, but it wasn't that good too.

Overall, it was a good leg. :) Team analyses coming up. I'm separating it this time becuase I'm not typing from the laptop, which would've been more convenient for me to type reviews and analyses.

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« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2017, 12:28:21 PM »
The roadblock was a mix of the Hong Kong ding ding task and the Ferris wheel meal in Vienna.

Honestly Lake Como is geogous but I would've preferred the roadblock to be there. They should've just done a HOO in Milan. Then have a detour with one option being the Tram task whilst having another detour. We'd also have another route info in Milan allowing a visit to the Duomo or Galleria Victoria Emanuel III. Then teams would travel to Como where the roadblock would be the Ghost task. They'd have to model the non participating person. That would work as we'd get the tasks in Milan with Como scenery.

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« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2017, 12:41:50 PM »
Ok time to review leg 6
-yay for visiting milan... One of my favourite city to visit...
-RB was pretty good, searching for 3 italian foods around the city, and great scenery in Milan at night... Said by Rachel that it was a combination of a TAR 17 and TAR 18 task.. Like this combination actually....
-bunching up in overseas ferry (or cruise ship?) yep actually hoped they explore milan a little more but ok... Good tough for balancing the position...
-Lake Como, that's something new to me so kudos for that
-i actually disappointed with the placement of W turn. Not because the W turn placed before the detour, but the placement  was right before the pit stop. It gave the certain death for u-turned team... And yeah agree with Rabbi, this episode seemed focus for The W turn drama than the purposeness itself... And i kinda distracted with that, i want to watch the amazing race, not the amazing soap opera betrayal themed.... Mike/Liz and Becca /Floyd used the Twinnies U turn strategies tough, but i have seen this before (Tyler/Korey and Burnie/Ashley of TAR 28 say hi)
-the detour would have been good had the options didn't significantly imbalance... Wrapping your teammates and strolling out for next clue was kinda odd to me, and rock climbing task was even unrelated to the culture.... And we have climbing task  at last leg...
-pit stop.... Finally #teamfun won the leg <333 also really sad to see Vanck/Ashton go. I always love how two really different personalities forced to depends each other and work as team... And that's in Vanck/Ashton....
-the cast was risen up high in this leg, to save this leg from potentially horrifying and boring leg, we got Mike abd Liz big meltdown at the start of the leg, the footrace to pitstop....

Verdict: this was easily the weakest episodes yet in this season, saved by RB and casts...  I was expecting more in this leg because we didn't see milan long time ago, and it only came until RB... Lake Como though was great with terrifying scene....the leg design was horrible but i'm sure next leg will be better than this
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« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2017, 12:48:17 PM »
The scenery was beautiful.

The roadblock was good.

Everything else tanked. Hated the U-turn placement. The detour tasks were meh.
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« Reply #53 on: April 28, 2017, 01:38:17 PM »
(Typing this a 2nd time because Google Chrome decided to restart when I was already doing Vanck & Ashton's part.)

To the teams...

I'm glad Becca & Floyd finally won a leg, after getting 3rd despite completing the FF last leg. They didn't even have to use their EP! Matt & Red finish within the Top 4 every leg, yet they have never won a leg yet, so I hope they win a leg soon. :hoot: The detour was obviously Becca's forte, and Matt's too it seems. They breezed through it quickly, which got them 1st and 2nd respectively. Part of that is due to Tara & Joey choosing the slower detour though.

Tara & Joey did well this leg. I'm not sure how Tara would've done had she and Mike not work together at the roadblock, but I guess I'll never know. Good thing they didn't use the U-turn too, because they would've looked like bad guys for real by using another (unnecessary) U-turn. They could've won the leg had they not chosen the slower detour, but at least we have a different leg winner now.

Liz & Mike ended their troubles in Norway for good. Mike seems to have done the smoothest in the roadblock. They had a chance to win the leg since Tara & Joey went for the slower detour, but they got lost going to the detour. It shows how they are still bad with directions even though it is no longer self driving. At least that's the only part where they have to navigate themselves, because I could easily guess that it could be another disaster for them if self navigation was for the whole leg. After all, they have a bad history with directions. The good thing about them getting lost is that at least other teams had the chance to win 1st.

Brooke & Scott are at the bottom again, but since they were actually complaining about being at the bottom again, I think it shows that they are not strong, fast, lucky enough to maintain a good momentum at the front of the pack. Scott was hilarious at the roadblock with his random scenes and face expressions. :funny: His interactions with Vanck were funny too, from the random chat in the tram, to Scott not wanting to share his answers to Vanck. What made me laugh at Brooke & Scott's detour drama was Scott's reply that he was using his eyes. Brooke complains a lot every episode, but at least I'm not bothered by it that much since she doesn't spill all of her drama power all over the episode. I actually find Scott more entertaining among the 2. :lol:

LoLo started out with poor luck for arriving last at the roadblock. They could've finished the roadblock in 3rd, and Logan almost breezed through the task had he not have an extra word. It's just too bad that they were still in last at a task they could've stepped ahead of the other teams. When the 4 racers right ahead of him failed the 1st attempt, I was rooting for him to catch up and finish in 3rd. Sad it didn't happen and they were still stuck in 7th. :( I understand the detour choice due to London's artistic background, but that took them a lot of time for sure. Had Vanck & Ashton not been U-turned, they would've been fighting for last with Vanck & Ashton. We would've had an epic boat race to the pit stop. The W-turn this leg took it away from us though. :(

Vanck & Ashton actually did smoothly this leg. The roadblock was a bumpy start, but everyone on Vanck's batch didn't get it right the 1st time. They did both sides of the detour pretty well too. They only passed the detour cluebox and the W-turn, and that might've been enough for us to see a LoLo vs Vanck & Ashton race for last place. The W-turn took the suspense away from us. :tantrum At least they were in good terms with each other as they leave the show, unlike S&S. I feel bad for Vanck & Ashton that all the teams turned against them even though they barely bothered some of the teams. It reminded me of how Beth & Mona and Joey & Meghan were U-turn targets back in the day because they were outside the big social group. It's not against the rules, but it's sad to see that everybody else is turning against one team for no good reason. :torche

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« Reply #54 on: April 28, 2017, 01:42:10 PM »
Oh btw, after watching the episode a 2nd time, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who saw it. Brooke & Scott got to the W-turn in 5th; LoLo, 6th. However, the editors indicated 4th and 5th for both teams respectively.

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« Reply #55 on: April 28, 2017, 01:51:57 PM »
This was such a fast-paced leg.
Teams immediately left, but since they used the travelocity app, I was expecting them to travel in different flights. Alas, everybody ran on a levelled field, and I kinda hated the fact that all the teams targeted Vanck and Ashton, when Vanck and Ashton did nothing to harm them. I mean - sure, Brooke and Scott are a weak team, but that doesn't mean that they should target other teams [especially when they did nothing to you and also aren't that much of a threat -.-].
The roadblock was ok-ish. Like someone mentioned that it was a mix of the ding ding detour from s17e10 and the Quick and easy meal detour from s18e8. Kinda glad that Mike and Tara helped each other out, but Scott was behaving way too over dramatic  :sab. He was also checking out the guy sitting next to him on the roadblock  :funny: oh my god he's so goofy
The teams had some peace on the ferry across Lake Como, so that was nice  :angel
The detour was boring. It definitely had a better name than last leg's detour, but anybody can rock climb in any part of the world - show us what you can only do in Milan!! Even the plaster detour was good because it emphasized on Milan's fashion side, but it didn't seem that fun. But it's alright, the future legs look awesome  :D
Redmond is definitely off the hate list. Brooke and Scott have replaced him. Ganging up on Vanck and Ashton was so not cool; Also Brooke needs to learn not to unnecessarily yell and work towards being a more cooperative teammate. LoLo still seem so boring. Liz and Mike were able to work out their differences, and I'm glad (but then again in the preview they're seeking help from an unwilling LoLo - could it be that LoLo are finally dragged into dirty drama?), Tara and Joey also had a relatively normal leg, I really loved the fact that Tara knew Italian, so coming here was a blessing in disguise. I really feel like Matt and Redmond are going to be one of those teams that will work hard towards no. 1 but will never get to be team no. 1 (a la burnie and ashley) and TEAM FUN WON 1ST PLACE !!! (still kinda pissed about the fact that some other team could've redeemed the fast forward and team fun could use their express pass to win, but it's already done and dusted...). Was really looking forward to Vanck and Ashton, but the double U-turn shot em down. ]

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« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2017, 03:28:04 PM »
But wait, the ghost task wasn't fun too. It was boring but cool, but also time consuming. That's part of the reason Joey & Tara only landed a 3rd this leg. Maybe the distance is shorter going from the ghost task to the pit stop, but I don't really seem to find any balance in this leg's detour.

Apparently, Vanck & Ashton were only 15 minutes behind London & Logan. So that says a lot about the Detours I think as well as Vanck & Ashton's sense of urgency.

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« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2017, 03:57:00 PM »
I didn't enjoy this leg much :/
Amazing scenery, but I don't care too much for that - it's not what makes a TAR leg great.
The roadblock was amazing but then got nulled completely due to the bunching on the boat. And then that detour was extremely imbalanced...

Seeing AshVan targetted by EVERYONE for personal reasons was something I hated. Their elimination lacked in suspense completely, and made the entire leg feel sooo anticlimactic.

With the leg design, this should've been a NEL. And no, I'm not saying that I wish Mike & Liz had gone home, or that the first legs should have been 5 straight eliminations. It was just a crappily designed leg imo.

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« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2017, 04:11:37 PM »
It was just a crappily designed leg imo.
I completely agree about this leg structure. Roadblock - overnight rest - U-Turn before Detour - seemingly unbalanced Detour tasks - Pit Stop via personal driver. As much as I love Italian legs and want to visit Lake Como for vacation, the coupling of the U-Turn and a leisurely boat ride right next to each other was a recipe spelling disaster.
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« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2017, 04:11:46 PM »
The locations for this Leg were superb, but it's definitely the weakest Leg so far. 

We knew Ash & Vanck were going home as soon as Mike & Liz U-Turned them, hell, we kinda knew it was coming from the minute Teams got to the train station at the start of the Leg.  :groan: 

Stupid placement of the U-Turn.  I didn't mind it in Leg 3, but doing it twice in a row just made no sense. It probably wouldn't have changed the outcome though.  :(
Part of me was actually expecting this to be a NEL, especially with the bad leg design, AND, it would've been an unexpected twist for both, the Teams and the viewers.

I just want LoLo out now at this stage.  They're the blandest, most invisible team, and they've only survived each Leg due to other Teams incompetence.  :groan:

Think I know what Phil meant now, when he said after Episode 5 the Season just "Halts".   :escape
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« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2017, 06:36:51 PM »
I've been lurking, but wanted to thank the forum for its spoilers.

I also was turned off by the teams ganging up on Ashton & Vanck. The Boys started the problem by lying to A/V about working with them. Then when A said she would get them back, they turned on the team pretty viciously. With Vanck, the others seemed like bullies going after the nerd from a different culture.

I agree with Liz: the Butcher was the one who was rude and pushy. I hope he doesn't win. My hopes are on the Army/police team, who seem the classiest, followed by the Fun team.



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« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2017, 06:41:24 PM »
I think that actually the U-turn board placement this time made more sense than last time. You have to do the RB better to earn the right to U-turn a team. Last time, it was all about the taxi.

And this was the first time a team being a U-turn target for all other teams. Like Becca said, they did not have a good social game. In the early season where there is no U-turn or Yield, you can just focus on your team but now you have to think about the relationship.

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« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2017, 07:30:16 PM »
Think I know what Phil meant now, when he said after Episode 5 the Season just "Halts".   :escape

I think Phil said "holds" just with his accent. But frankly, that might not really change the meaning. If the rest of the season "holds" and doesn't really progress or improve on this Episode 6? Then  :escape indeed!

The placement of the U-Turn wouldn't have been that much of a problem had there not been the staggered release times again. Taking a number for a morning release was fine in the earlier years of TAR, but not on the current TAR with such horrible, linear and simple Legs.

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« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2017, 09:36:16 PM »
Brook is so annoying, not even funny annoying like Hayley.  :groan:

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« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2017, 09:43:47 PM »
Brook is so annoying, not even funny annoying like Hayley.  :groan:

Totally agree! And also, I don't think Hayley ever called other teams annoying. Which Brooke did last week and this week when referring to Ashton.

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« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2017, 10:15:21 PM »
I think Vanck and Ashton could have survived if they hadn't gotten lost finding the u-turn board, based on the saying they were only 15 minutes behind LoLo
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« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2017, 11:50:36 PM »
Brook is so annoying, not even funny annoying like Hayley.  :groan:

Totally agree! And also, I don't think Hayley ever called other teams annoying. Which Brooke did last week and this week when referring to Ashton.
Hayley only call Blair as annoying  :funny:

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« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2017, 11:53:01 PM »
Brook is so annoying, not even funny annoying like Hayley.  :groan:

Brooke is on Hailey's slay queen avatar state  :funny:
Totally agree! And also, I don't think Hayley ever called other teams annoying. Which Brooke did last week and this week when referring to Ashton.
Hayley only call Blair as annoying  :funny:
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« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2017, 02:59:44 AM »
I just watched London's recap and apparently a big reason of Ashton/Vanck becoming a target was because she upgraded herself and Vanck to first class on the plane to Norway...
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« Reply #69 on: April 29, 2017, 03:21:19 AM »
So it seems that AshVan rubbed other teams the wrong way strictly during the Norway leg.
I suspect if the U-Turn hadn't been included this leg, but instead 1 or 2 legs later, the target would've shifted. I mean, they all must realise that a chance to U-Turn RedMatt (or now even TarJoe) is one not to be missed.

And this was the first time a team being a U-turn target for all other teams.
Brenchel? Abbie & Ryan?

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« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2017, 03:25:42 AM »
And this was the first time a team being a U-turn target for all other teams.
Brenchel? Abbie & Ryan?

I would also like to add Joey & Meghan and Kym & Alli to that list (and Justin & Diana but we were robbed of that) =P

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« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2017, 04:47:19 AM »
I just watched London's recap and apparently a big reason of Ashton/Vanck becoming a target was because she upgraded herself and Vanck to first class on the plane to Norway...
Upgrading is a strategy though
If teams are getting made because of this strategy. they should only blame themselves because of the silliness :groan:

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2017, 05:30:29 AM »
Brook is so annoying, not even funny annoying like Hayley.  :groan:
I swear  :funny: Since I started seeing TAR (from s17!) there have been annoying people but none as hateful as Brooke. I actually liked Brooke, but then she started bitching about Vanck and Ashton for no reason. Now she just seems petty.
Other bitches that I like include Marie (s23), Vanessa (s20) & Hayley (ofc!).

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2017, 05:45:23 AM »
Vanessa was definitely more petty if we're going that route :res:

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« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2017, 07:06:17 AM »
I mean: This wasn't the first time. Don't know why I forgot to type "not"  :funny:

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #75 on: April 29, 2017, 08:56:03 AM »
Worst leg of the season so far. They should just stick with the Milan night leg tbh.

And are all the U-turn this season gonna be like this? So GROSS and STUPID. In Leg 3, we got the U-Turn result by who can run like 100m faster on beach. And this leg, by who can walk 3 minutes to that castle faster. And the fact that this U-Turn come after the predetermined releasing time bunching-point and place just before the Pit Stop made it even worse. :res:

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #76 on: April 29, 2017, 12:17:09 PM »
Vanessa was definitely more petty if we're going that route :res:

"I can see her whole  :-X! Haha!"
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Anyway, even without knowing about the First Class upgrade, the reasons on the show really felt petty and out of nowhere.
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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #77 on: April 29, 2017, 06:36:41 PM »
Somebody please rewatch the ending where it shows Vanck & Ashton completing the second Detour.  There's a voiceover from Ashton that sounds clearly edited/chopped and it's really annoying me for some reason... I'm sorry I complain about this all the time but the EDITING :groan:

She says: "We. were. The oddball polar opposite combination" (You barely hear her finish the word "combination") Like.. that sentence doesn't even make any sense in context.

Also: showing Brooke & Scott place 5th before showing Mike & Liz place 4th. Really?

ALSO: They incorrectly showed Brooke & Scott in 4th at the U-Turn board, Team LoLo in 5th, and Vanck & Ashton after them in "last" ("6th")

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Re: TAR 29 Ep 6 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! 4/27/17 *read Post 1*
« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2017, 02:49:07 AM »
Ugh this leg sucked. The whole structure was wrong, the U-Turn BEFORE the detour sucks, U-Turn before the pitstop sucks and one of the few interesting teams went home.

When Amazing Race is good, it's great. But poorly designed legs like this ruin the show's overall quality

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« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2017, 05:44:29 AM »
I just watched this... WTF Vanck and Ashton were so robbed by such a crap leg design.

This should have been a NEL and had no U-turn to begin with. Agree with the lot of you, what idiot in production decided to put in a double U-turn straight after staggered departure times... with a lopsided detour and no roadblock to catch up on.

So mad Ashton is gone, she was one of my faves. I bet she could have made it all the way had this season played out differently, I feel bad for her :(

Also Brooke is everything. So glad she's paired with Scott, he just amplifies the heck out of her drama. They're so messy, but my gosh they are just such an entertaining team :lol: